HP Spectre x360

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  1. Guy Oren

    Guy Oren Notebook Guru

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    Hey,

    How much the battery lasts under gaming? Is it overheat or very noisy?
     
  2. wdreamsmaycome

    wdreamsmaycome Newbie

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    ahh, gotcha, wonder why no pics I've seen of the x360 internals have a drive in, it's always empty... still not sure how the sm941 is working as all the reviews I've heard say the x360 is msata while the sm941 is an m.2 pcie
     
  3. bobcatmvp1

    bobcatmvp1 Notebook Geek

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    So, to clarify, mSATA is not available on the x360. The x360 uses a M.2 slot. The rest is dependent on the M.2 drive installed. All sizes of the stock drive, are M.2 SATA drives. Meaning they are limited by the 6Gbps bandwidth of SATA III. In the case of the Samsung SM951, it is a M.2 form factor drive, but of the PCIe variety. Hence, no 6Gbps limit. Also, the drive is rated at around 2.2GB/s reads and 1.5GB/s writes, but as you can tell, I am not quite there. More than likely a motherboard limitation, and not a M.2 limitation in my opinion.
     
  4. bobcatmvp1

    bobcatmvp1 Notebook Geek

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    Heat is not an issue. I've ran benchmark after benchmark with this SM951, and it is as cool, if not cooler, than the stock M.2 SATA 256GB SSD.
     
  5. wdreamsmaycome

    wdreamsmaycome Newbie

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    I am definitely confused by the whole msata / pcie / m.2 thing, I thought that m.2 is the form factor, and within the m.2 form factor you can have either msata OR pcie and the two are not interoperable, you either get an msata drive OR you get a pcie drive, and from reviews I thought the x360 had an msata controller, precluding the use of pcie drives: or did I completely misunderstand and you have an m.2 port and what is available in terms of msata/pcie depends from the drive? if the x360 was pcie capable (which your transfer rates seem to suggest) why isn't it advertised or sold as a BTO option?
     
  6. bobcatmvp1

    bobcatmvp1 Notebook Geek

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    You're on the right track. mSATA and M.2 are form factors. mSATA being the physically larger drive of the two. SATA and PCIe are the connection to the motherboard. M.2 form factor can have either SATA or a PCIe connection to the board. Completely depends on the hard drive you choose, but M.2 can handle both. Now, there are probably at least two reasons HP didn't decide to make this available.
    1. Cost - the justification for an additional $200-$300 probably wouldn't make sense for the target audience
    2. Engineering hours - even more money dumped into the development of an already great ultrabook

    Also, I'm out on a limb here, I can guarantee if I called in stating something was wrong with my notebook, and if they ran a diagnostic and found that the stock hard drive wasn't in there, either A. No support would be given until the stock one is reinserted, or B. My warranty could be voided.

    Either way, with the performance I'm getting, I wouldn't go back.
     
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  7. wdreamsmaycome

    wdreamsmaycome Newbie

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    I think I understood the M.2 form factor can handle both, but I thought that within the form factor you also had to have a match with the motherboard (i.e. say SATA hd <-> SATA controller on the motherboard, and same for pcie <-> pcie) not that, say, hp could ship a sata m.2 drive and you can put in a pcie one and it works...

    (edit) I did some more reading and I guess the possible issues are M keyed connector vs B keyed (the SM951 is M keyed, which is pcie x 4) and being able to boot from it due to the BIOS, glad that it seems the x360 is fine for both (meaning it has an M-keyed slot and can boot from it)

    Hmmmm, given this you are making me rethink getting it from the windows store, since it's quite a bit cheaper at BB with a 128GB drive (which I wouldn't use, but would be kept if warranty service was needed), this said how easy was it to open the x360? any 'this will void your warranty' stickers?
     
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  8. lovelaptops

    lovelaptops MY FRIENDS CALL ME JEFF!

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    Excellent, excellent analysis. Also, your last line can't be emphasized enough. Virtually no one would notice the difference in SSD speeds.
     
  9. henrydb

    henrydb Newbie

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    Here's a new and pretty positive dutch review of the QHD model. Interestingly, they measure the QHD display brightness at fairly healthy 295 nits. I'm beginning to wonder if there is quite a bit of display brightness variation between individual QHD models.
     
    Last edited: May 15, 2015
  10. Vsxp

    Vsxp Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'm still waiting for my x360 and I hope that the display would be like that Dutch one! Let's hope that German and French test models weren't as bad as we thought.
     
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