HP Spectre 15 DF-1XXX (late 2019) Owners Lounge

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  1. Twain0

    Twain0 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi all

    Since the particular model is not yet very present in internet reviews I would like to start a new owners lounge thread and share my impressions with the topspec version I've got here since a couple of days. I've had also the chance to comprehensively test the former CH0XXX and DF0XXX models before so in some terms it's also a differential jugdgement.

    Model: Spectre 15-DF1850, with swiss localization
    CPU: i7-9750 6-core
    GPU: GTX1650 Max-Q with 4GB VRAM
    RAM: 16GB dualchannel ddr4-2666 (soldered)
    Display: Amoled UHD Touch
    Colour: Dark Ash

    Positive:
    + Strong over all performance in relation to case size, benchmarks will follow
    + Temperatures and fan noise are on the acceptable side
    + Very sturdy and elegant case, due to Amoled ~150g lighter than former models (exactly 2.0 kg)
    + Excellent keyboard, far better than XPS and Macbook Pro
    + Good connectivity
    + Strong uSD-reader performance
    + 2x 4-lanes Thunderbolt
    + USB-charging on all USB-C ports
    + IR webcam
    + Fingerprint reader
    + Amoled screen (but with severe drawbacks; see below)
    + Pretty large battery
    + Improved sound quality compared to former DF0XXX or CH0XXX models

    Negative:
    - The digitizer layer on the Amoled screen adds a lot of distortion to the screen's display quality. The picture appears extremely noisy and grainy. The over all sharpness is lower than FHD und the native UHD resolution is completely useless. It's not subjective, it's unfortunately hard fact! :(
    - Amoled is power consuming, battery life could be better
    - GPU does rarely throttle while heavy gaming (repasting did help a little, but still present)
    - Touchpad has rather small size
    - Serviceability is weak, rubber bottom feet must be removed for screw access
    - The gem cut design looks good but is uncomfortable to hold an prone to dings and dents

    Over all a nice computer with pretty much all the assets to become a real champ. But the flaw with digitizer visibility on Amoled weights pretty heavilly and might be a killer for almost everyone. I'm also not sure if I will return the computer after my testing has been completed.

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    Note the silver shims partially covering the GPU. It's a unprofessionally looking measure, probably to lead additional heat from GPU to heatsink. Because of the shims the contact to GPU die was not so tight thus a thick layer of thermal compound was required. I removed the shims and put a thin layer of HQ paste to GPU instead.

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    BR
    Twain
     
    Last edited: Dec 10, 2019
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    Twain0 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Added pictures of the actual unit. Unfortunately the RAM is soldered again and GPU throttling did not disappear with repasting.
     
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  3. Fighwithadeagle

    Fighwithadeagle Newbie

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    I figure out how to remove the throttling on this laptop. You have to set the thing to performance mode in the hp command center. It definitely gets a lot hotter than just running the balanced, but it looks like the balanced throws in a hard 74 degree thermal cap on the gpu, and something else on the cpu. If you set performance, it completely unlocks everything. I'm running a +175 on the core and +150 on the memory for the gtx 1650. Anything else I can help you with?

    Thank you for the information and pictures. First, what is the battery life that you are getting with this laptop. I'm getting absolutely abysmal battery life, especially given that it is a 84 watt hour battery. BatteryInfoView is reporting that I'm using between 7 and 10 watts at idle, and then it spikes up to around 18 watts when the laptop is doing something (like youtube). Throttlestop seems to mess with the cpu power consumption and increase it actually, even when undervolting.

    Addittionally, do you have issues waking the computer from sleep? It doesn't seem to wake when opening the laptop up after an extended period of time, plus it appears to drain while in sleep mode as well. Plus when you wake the laptop up, it seems to be booting from hibernation (which I turned off) instead of a standard sleep and resume state.
     
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    Fighwithadeagle Newbie

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    For anyone else looking, the issue with the digitizer isn't present on the ips version of the screen. The colors on this screen are much worse as expected, and a bit yellow for my taste, but it is crystal clear.

    Also, does anyone have issues with their speakers rattling on this laptop under certain frequencies (and especially the windows notification frequencies)?

    The wifi on this laptop is excellent though.
     
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    Porter Notebook Virtuoso

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    I upgraded the SSD right away on mine, and have been unsuccessful in finding a working HP command center so I cannot change the modes at all. Google searches led me to believe it cam only be downloaded from the windows store. I tried that, it does install but doesn't appear to work at all.

    It is so quiet even when fans are full blast, I really wish every manufacturer would a max fan option to enable when sound levels are not a concern. It's a pretty good performer for its size and 2in1 form factor.
     
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    So i sent it back to hp to have some things fixed. The laptop battery was changed with no change in capacity. The speakers were replaced but still rattle in the housing. The touchpad rattles by design I think rather than manufacturing defect.

    The biggest new thing that has become a problem is that in tablet mode the device doesn't completely close unless it is laying flat on the desk. If it is lifted any angle other than 180, the screen starts to come off the bottom of the laptop because it seems like the magnets are no longer in the screen that are used to hold the thing together.
     
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