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HP Spectre 13T-3000

Discussion in 'HP Envy & HDX' started by theboswell, Oct 19, 2013.

  1. theboswell

    theboswell Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi! First time poster, long time lurker of this site.

    I actually ordered mine on Thursday...haven't bought a laptop without checking reviews before so I hope it works out.. I saw the preview for this one back in September and was considering the Sony Vaio Pro 13, Yoga Pro 2, Asus UX301LA and the upcoming Haswell refresh of the Dell XPS13.

    For me, I just wound up loving this design and the HP Control Zone touch pad as I don't want to swipe the screen much. Coming from an Asus right now, I was leaning toward the UX301LA but I know it's going to be closer to $1800. It looks like the XPS 13 won't have an sd slot which is mandatory for me and honestly, I'm just not into the Lenovo. It's cheap and looks alright though, sounds like there's a major issue with the display colors.

    Anyway, there is at least some interest in the HP Spectre 13. Interestingly, the very first day it was listed online there was an option for a 2560 x 1440 panel for an extra $60, now it's only 1920 x 1080. That didn't affect my decision though as that wasn't important to me
     
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    It sounds like we are in similar boats. Your short list is pretty close to mine.

    I would have pulled the trigger on the Yoga Pro 2 a couple days ago when I saw it at Best Buy if it were not for the horrible display colors on the display unit (yellow=dirty green, reds=orange).

    I have an older Studio 15 that is being replaced and I have been leaning towards the new XPS13. This is the first that I have heard about a lack of a SD slot. That's a deal killer for me too. I'm glad you said something, because I would have just assumed it was included.

    The UX301LA looks great, but it's going to be about $500 more than the XPS13 or this 13T-3000. The Sony Flip 13 is also interesting but the poor reviews on the Vaio Pro make me skeptical.

    If the 2560 x 1440 option was available now, I would pull the trigger on this immediately. I'd love just a little more screen real estate mainly for viewing big Excel workbooks.

    I'd love to hear your thoughts once it has been delivered.
     
  4. mcsey2k1

    mcsey2k1 Notebook Guru

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    Here's my story. I seen this on HP website on the 9/16 late at night. I never know or read about that model until 9/16. When I on HP website, Immediately started to build out the configuration and I maxed it out. At that time, they had the QHD 2550x1440 screen, which was important (I was going to hold out for the Ausus

    Here's my story. I seen this on HP website on the 9/16 late at night. I never knew, heard or read about this model until 9/16. When I went on HP's website, I immediately started to build out the configuration and I maxed it out. At that time, they had the QHD 2550x1440 screen option, which was important (I was going to hold out for the Ausus UX301). So I max out my configuration and added to my cart. But I wanted to think about it and do more resaech before I finailized my order. So I tried to look for some reviews but there wasn't many, So after two hours of trying to find some reviews I just closed my laptop (while my max 13t-3000 was still in my cart) and went to sleep to think about it over night.

    The next morning, I said I am going to pull the trigger, so I when through the configuration once again (forgetting that I have a saved cart) and to my surprise the QHD 2550x1440 option wasn't there, only the 1920x1080; I was upset and wasn't going to order it. Just when I was about to leave the page, I looked to my right and I seen that I have an item that was in the saved cart, so I looked in my cart it was the max out 13t-3000 that I configured the night before, with the 2550x1440 option; Immediately finalized my order. So my order is currently in production and is due to ship on 11/4, so I am pretty happy. I hope it feels and looks as good as the Asus UX31A the new UX301. Below is my Spectre 13T-3000 configuration:

    • Windows 8.1 Pro 64
    • 4th generation Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4500U(1.8GHz,4MB L3 Cache)+ Intel(R) HD Graphics(For 8GB Memory)
    • 13.3-inch diagonal Vivid QHD Infinity LED-backlit Display (2560x1440) Touchscreen
    • Onboard 8GB DDR3 System Memory
    • 256GB SSD
    • No Additional Office Software
    • Security Software Trial
    • 4 Cell Lithium Ion Battery
    • No Internal DVD or CD Drive
    • Backlit Keyboard
    • Webcam and Microphone
    • 802.11 AC WLAN and Bluetooth(R)
    • USB Ethernet Adapter
     
  5. Josh77

    Josh77 Newbie

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    This looks like a potentially great laptop at the price. Hard to believe that there are no reviews of it out there.
     
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    Yes, I will definitely report when it's delivered. Not sure why this one is so elusive online. I've been a little uneasy with buying my first HP(I've heard good thing about the Elitebooks at least), but this really does look like a high quality ultrabook. I've read up quite a bit about this and everyone who's handled one said it felt like a high quality premium design.

    I still think they'll bring back the 2560x1440 panel though. I'm betting there's a supply issue and they just want to get these out the door now.

    Also, don't forget to use SVD8492 to get 5% if you order. Sadly, this turned out to be a better discount than my employee purchase program price! Either way, for a loaded ultrabook, ~$1300 is a great price.
     
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    I made a late night impulse buy on the Spectre 13T-3000 and was immediately surprised that HP has no mention of this model in their (at least North American) support site.
    Usually I like to see what hardware vendors (drivers) are included on a particular model, and this surprised me, usually that isn't a great sign of anything as HP loves to meld models together, especially as it pertains to the hardware within each model.

    This was a complete impulse buy, as I am fortunate to have several other excellent pieces of hardware in my collection. I am looking to replacing my 2009 11" mac air with this as my daily carry unit; i doubt it will replace my HP EliteBook 2530p in terms of utility and function, without an NIC that would be a tall order. I also have several Compaq NC62XX's I cannot seem to part ways with, all because of those excellent serial ports! Those are the only lappy's I currently have charged and operational, I have several stacks of classics that I cannot part ways with either... I only throw the garbage away!

    I liked the copper color, honestly its a great idea.
    I liked the SD slot, that is simply a requirement on a low volume storage ultralight.
    I liked the 'idea' of the touch screen, but i do not believe that i will use it much.
    I liked the 'idea' of the huge touchpad, but i honestly hope the 'untested' 'revolutionary' 'new' thing doesn't suck.

    I fear the PWR adapter might be somewhat a PITA, as this amazon listing states, most all of HP has no clue what model works with these Spectre laptops.
    I fear that this model may bring with it the BAD OMEN of a high failure rate; as one of my clients with a medium sized fleet of 14" Spectre's have had a very high failure rate.
    The failures I mention were mostly ALL related to SSD with no correlation as to a particular size; merely failures. Despite having this knowledge I still bought one!

    I am excited, and I am glad I found a niche with others who also took the plunge!

    Let us know if anyone finds the HP Driver page, I will attempt to find those as soon as I get the unit.

    My intentions are to reformat and re-install as soon as i open it. in fact, I will re-install several dozen times, as that is mostly all I do....

    thanks for your time.
    hack6500
     
  8. mcsey2k1

    mcsey2k1 Notebook Guru

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    Here is a pretty good video of the HP Spectre 13, it is the best view of the laptop I've seen since I've been doing my research. HP Spectre 13 Ultrabook with WQXGA screen and Intel "Haswell" hands on - YouTube

    Also, Did anyone else luck out and get the QHD 2550x1440 Display option before they took it down?

    This laptop has a lot of potential, and like everyone else on this forum, I generally do tons of research before I bite the bullet. I only pulled the trigger because I the opportunity to get the QHD option. At worst case scenario, I have 21 days to return if it is half-baked.

    Lots of luck to all early purchasers!
     
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    Another Video Review of what I believe to be the 13t-3000 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VuDqOlbu_4

    unfortunately i did not get the 2550x1440, i wonder if it was a mistake, as your video indicates that the US market will get the lower resolution model. I think the real question is... did that upgrade actually cost anything, or was it simply a configuration mistake in the config listing. shipping will soon send it your way to be inspected! good luck!

     
  10. PowerMan572

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    I purchased the ultrabook on day 1 from HP. I have been waiting for the new HP Spectre Ultrabooks all summer long! When the tech blogs announced this Ultrabook in September, a couple of them stated it would be available October 16th so I marked my calendar and ordered the first night :)

    I'm kind of disappointed I'm not seeing a lot of 14" ultrabooks. HP came out with a Spectre last year and put a 14" screen inside a 13.3" chassis and it is really nice! Oh well, 13.3" will have to do for me :)

    I too went to look at the specs on HP's website like a day later and noticed the QHD 2550x1440 screen has been removed. I started getting worried and was thinking "HP better not send me the default screen!"

    So do you guys think think this was a mistake on HP's part? Maybe supply issue? In 1 of the YouTube videos, it said the U.S. was going to only be getting the 1920x1080 screen. So maybe this was a mistake on HP's part to post it on the website?

    My ultrabook is expected to ship 11/1.

    Oh, and if you guys call HP directly, they can get you a better deal than that 5% coupon posted above by someone :) I was able to get a total of $125 off.
     
  11. mcsey2k1

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    hack6500 -- Yes, you may be correct in that fact the QHD option was only suppose to be for Non-US Countries, which is why they took it down. The upgrade did cost, can't remember exactly how much, but I believe it was around $70. My laptop is currently in production and they sent me my order confirmation yesterday outlining my configuration.

    Well only time will tell. Either I will get as phone call/email stating they can't build my configuration because the QHD option was a mistake. Or they will ship it but only with a FHD or they will ship it with the QHD option as I configured it and life will be great. But I will 100% agree with you, it was mostly likely a mistake. Or it could be simply a supply issue and they will eventually add the option back????
     
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    The upgrade cost for QHD was $60. I remember it very well since I almost chose that option, but I didn't end up choosing it simply because I don't have much use for it....now I kind of wish I could have bought it just to resell! Wish I knew about calling in to get a better deal. I wound up with the 5% off and then used FatWallet to get an additional 3% off so about $100 off overall. Not too bad!
     
  13. The Muffin Man

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    The QHD screen offered on the US website was not a mistake. It was taken down due to a glut of orders which depleted their supply and will appear as soon as that issue is fixed. For proof, the ship date on October 16 for any configuration was November 1 and now it is several days later for any configuration. HP is not Apple -- they don't automatically build 1 million+ of their devices. Several PPs claim to have ordered the QHD (I'm assuming in the U.S. though I could be wrong). If it was a mistake, they would have been contacted and/or their orders would have been canceled. Also, in one of the videos the reviewer states that it has "a 512 GB hard drive if you want." I haven't seen that offered on any site, yet, because I would most likely get it if it was available. My point being, things are still fluid.

    Anyway, my hesitation in ordering stems from the QHD vs. FHD and their effect on the system. HP offers two CPUs: i5-4200 or i7-4500, and both have the same GPU -- Intel HD 4400. Wouldn't getting the QHD completely over-tax the unit? Even if you chose the i7, I still don't think its 8-10% improvement on the i5 is going to help push all those extra pixels, and would likely be murder on the battery life. I'd like to get the QHD as soon as it reappears, and for $60 it's a no-brainer, but not at the risk of overheating, throttling, 5 hours of battery versus 7-9, etc. Anybody have any thoughts on this?
     
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    Muffin Man - I don't think anyone said with certainty that HP took the qHD option down because it was a mistake, everyone thus far was simply speculating.

    You are correct that the qHD option can/may tax your system, which is why you have to configure the i7-4500U with 8GB memory, but it will not tax by much. The question becomes what are you going to be doing with this PC? Light-to-Medium video editing would be fine. Also the i7-4500U has another 1MB cache and the 4400GPU is tweaked to run just a little faster, albeit not by much. At worst case scenario you can change the resolution to FHD if needed. So for $60, it was a no brainier (whether you need it or not) and will definitely help out with the reseller value. As far a the heat, yes it may get a little warm, but the Haswell CPU suppose to be better in that area (Especially the "U") and I know it depends on the design of the laptop. Also, remember, these are fitted with SSD not yesteryear's Hard-drives, so that will help out with the heat as well.

    But the jury is still out on the qHD/i7-4500U combination. Until one of us get it and play around with it, neither one of us simply don't know how this combination will work, whether we get a Dell, ASUS or HP we just have to wait for the verdict. BTW it got my system fully loaded for $1426 /w tax.
     
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    Personally, battery life was more important to me for light duty work, so FHD and i5 is what I chose but still got 8gb of memory and 256gb hard drive, wifi AC. My total was $1252 w/tax.

    Has anyone seen the "premium" leather sleeve yet? From every video I've seen showing this model off, they always highlight the fact there's a custom designed sleeve for it. Supposed to be $90 though, but it's easy to find a big accessory discount.
     
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    Thanks for that. It's pretty much what I expected. If QHD, then i7 and 8 GB ram are musts; if FHD, any config will do.
     
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    Another HP Video speaking about the 'luxary goods' aspects of the new Spectre's: HP Spectre 13 X2 & HP Spectre 13 Ultrabook (Haswell) - YouTube

    That Spectre 13 X2 just reminds me of my old HP tc1100, seems HP finally realized the keyboard needs more weight, as my tc1100 was quite easy to knock over when just sitting ony my desk! A side note, i pulled my tc1100 out and attempted a win8 install back when it came out, but unfortunately it knew what i was trying to do and denied installation (some tc1100's have cpu's which would allow win8 installation to work). I am awaiting a 8.1 iso to try again, i would love to see win8 on that relic; for no other reason than just because.

    Others may not agree, but the QHD was not one of items I am much interested in, FHD is more than fine for my aging eyes. I am more than happy with 1920x1080 for a desktop resolution; and gaming even at that resolution on this GPU is plain silly; lite gaming at 1280x1024 will be my target to evaluate this machine.

    Even so most of the time I will be working with 1024x768 virtual desktop consoles, allowing for a healthy amount of leftover screen real estate.

    I had read back in 2008-09 about how Apple designed and invested in a special manufacturing process to create the unbelievably thin Apple Air aluminium chassis; in this investment Apple negotiated a 5 year exclusivity on this type of product; it would seem that contract has come to an end; this chassis looks very similar!

    Lets hope this HP Spectre doesn't use pentelobe screws!

    I want to know who is supplying the SSD drives.. thats what I will be worried about.

    It would seem this site says the Brown leather sleeve will be available in November! He also has a small writeup on the Spectre 13t-3000: HP Spectre 13 ultrabook is as thick as an ink pen with Haswell power - SlashGear
     
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    I am a little upset my card was already charged. The charge came on 10/18 and my shipping date isn't until 11/4, so at 5 - 7 days, I likely won't see it until the week of 11/11.

    I don't know if this is normal for HP, but it's going to be at least three full weeks between when my card was charged and when I have the laptop in hand. They should have just kept a temporary authorization on it and then charged it when it shipped.
     
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    It's funny that no one did start this thread earlier because I was scouring the site looking to see if there was any interest in it as well. Glad to see that it was started!

    Seems like everyone who is looking at this laptop is pretty much on the same boat - i was looking at the Yoga Pro 2, Samsung AB9+ and the Acer Aspire S7-392. However, none seemed to match the potential for the HP with the specs on pricing. I was also going to pre-order, but the lack of the higher-res screen stopped me. was very confused as to why this option was taken off otherwise i would have already ordered it. I currently have an HP Envy 15 (2nd Gen) that has served me well for 3 years plus, and haven't had any issues with this (except for the trackpad i broke trying to repair it...ah well). looking forward to hearing more from early purchasers!
     
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    Generally, once it goes into production HP charged your CC. I know Dell hold an authorization and doesn't fully charged your CC until the order has been shipped.

    The 5-7 Days is a padding because it comes from China. Hopefully it gets build and shipped earlier then its expected date :)
     
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