Hp omen 17t bios downgrade ?

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  1. ashknani

    ashknani Notebook Consultant

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    Hello all , is there a way to bios downgrade coz i feel like my cpu scores are way below than what they should be , my current bios is F25 and I think F11 or F16 bios would be much better than this one.

    Edit: I have tried the bios recovery option it says bios signature failed or something.
     
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    The thermals are great below 73c with 38x multiplier at all cores I just want to confirm that the bios f16 or f11 does not have a higher performance coz some ppl said it does give a better performance can u check whats ur cinebench r20 gives u for the multicore ? I got 3891 score can u do a test and reply plz

    Edit: the score.
     
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    3764, but that's with about 30 other things running (too lazy to reboot it) and not max fan. That's my i9-9880h. It drew 87W, 4GHz the whole time. It should be hitting 4100 MHz on 8 cores, must have something to do with my throttlestop settings. Oh, and hit 92 C before the fans kicked up.
     
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    Nah its not ur settings it just does not hit 4.1ghz on all cores no matter what u do.
     
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    Well the good thing is its not really a better bios it might have some other stuff which I clearly dont know what and I have downgraded to F22 bios and I am now able to undervolt up to -0.200 which is weird I was not able to do that before at all.
     
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    The big fear is getting a plundervolt fix decreed upon me. Although I got the thermals so well under control that I don't really need to undervolt it, it just brings down the watts a little at the max turbo limit ratios. I have had this hit 4100 MHz 8 core and 4700 single, and very rarely 4800 MHz so it is possible. I think it has something to do with how Windows schedules which thread goes where, not a hardware thing. And I know the thermal velocity boost requires CPU be below 50 C, so I've hit that during regular use and it shows up in Afterburner Max, never gonna see it in a benchmark.
    My next project is to really tweak the 2080 which I haven't bothered with because the thermals are good. I have the 4K screen which is a liability for gaming. I'm not sure I understand what the benefit is: Nvidia seems to handle its frequencies itself pretty well up to the 150W limit. I assume 99% GPU usage translates to max power, so at that point what would overclocking even do? I know undervolting could help with a little more work per watt, but that whole curve thing just looks distastefully complicated.
     
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    There is a vbios here that make the gpu takes up to 190watt tried it but saw little to no performance plus created an issue where the laptop would be unusable until u restart it plus no hdmi and no display port so reverted back to normal and used voltage curve do not bother to overclock it
     
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    How are you guys getting such high cinebench scores. The highest I can get is 3650 on my 9880H, pulling 86W the whole time.
     
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    Agreed, the new F30 BIOS improved it a bit but I'm getting 3861. I believe my boost relative to yours is that it's drawing 86W, but with a -.125V undervolt which frees up a little extra work.
    I don't have an answer for you, but some possibilities: Silicon lottery. I have a mix of not-the-best SSDs and a HD in this. I have the 4K screen. GSync keeps the 2080 on all the time. I benchmark with two displays and a ton of USB stuff on a hub. I put 64GB of RAM in this, 2666 yes but cheap and probably not the best timings. There are probably some services running like OwnCloud, BackBlaze, Command Center etc that I'm too lazy to disable for benchmarks. I use wired ethernet, Windows finds that exciting and is always doing something in the background. The Realtek is nowhere near as troublesome as Killer and I don't have it setup, but I'm sure something related to that is running in the driver.

    I have a weird problem in Passmark where the 2D performance is abysmal, as in single-digits. Userbenchmark penalizes me for having a spinning HD.

    Even with Gsync off I don't get the timespy/fire strike scores other people do, presumably with the FHD screens. All this said, the machine is blindingly fast and so far has only been laid low trying to run problem games at 4K, like Metro Exodus, Quantum Break, Dishonored 2 (garbage engines/****ty ports).

    Oh you didn't mention, how are your thermals at 86W with the GPU idling? Mine are upper 80s after extensive work. For a while it would actually run at exactly 90W, but now it's a little below that and trips EDP OTHER despite no other flags. There have been some Windows/HP/Intel updates I didn't pay much attention too other than to make sure undervolting wasn't disabled, but something has definitely changed.

    I always try to end with a little gratitude, so being able to get 50-100% more power out of the i9 than the overpriced ultrabooks is quite satisfying. And thanks to everyone here and on the vBIOS thread who helped me tame this thing that wanted to melt itself as delivered.
     
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