HP Omen 15T (2019) 15-dc1000~15-dc1999, 15t-dc100 RTX20x0, GTX 1660

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  1. azproc

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    Making thread title general for use

    Briefly:
    Same design as late 2018 Omen 15, but now featuring RTX 2060, 2070MQ and recently GTX 1660 with 9th generation i7.

    Specs of my unit:
    Product number: 6CM24AV
    Intel® Core™ i7 8750H(2.2 GHz, up to 4.1 GHz, 9 MB cache, 6 cores)
    NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 2070 (8 GB GDDR5 dedicated) - MAXQ version despite HP website not stating so
    8 GB DDR4-2666 SDRAM (1 x 8 GB)
    1 TB 7200 rpm SATA
    Full-size backlit keyboard with numeric keypad and N-Key Rollover (White Legend)
    Intel® 802.11b/g/n/ac (2x2) Gigabit Wi-Fi® and Bluetooth® 5 Combo(MU-MIMO supported)
    15.6" diagonal FHD 144 Hz IPS anti-glare micro-edge WLED-backlit (1920 x 1080) LGD05FE with GSYNC
    Windows 10 Pro 64
    HP Wide Vision HD Camera with Dual digital microphone
    4-cell, 70 Wh Li-ion polymer

    Note I added the WIFI / Bluetooth 5.0 unit upgrade ($20) and Windows 10 Pro ($70), and ensured I received the RGB keyboard = White Legend (free option, default is Red Keyboard only = Red Legend)
    All of the above $1484 USD + Tax at time of purchase from HP. You can probably save $90 as my 'upgrades' are not necessary to enjoy this.
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    I immediately added additional identical 8GB Samsung RAM for dual-channel ($40) and an HP EX920 512GB NVME drive (around $60).
    Interestingly on full stock settings, was getting 3DMARK Fire Strike of around 14K overall and it wasn't making much sense. I also noticed some thermal throttling (in the 90s with throttling back down to ~3GHz)

    An interesting thing I noticed that HP has some TDP tweaks!
    At Default or Cool settings via Omen Command Center, the TDP maxes out around 78w on the 2070MQ.

    HOWEVER! At the Performance setting (with 'Omen Dynamic Power') - the 2070 manages to pull up to 92w with an average of 88w. So this is a 80W 2070MQ which can pull similar voltage to the 90w chip. See my screenshot in the Tomb Raider bench. It's not a 115w full 2070 but appreciate the boost that HP allows.

    Tweaks:
    - Under-volt core to -0.145v and cache to -0.130 through Throttlestop
    - Modified maximum turbo boost frequency cap to 3.6GHz (36 multiplier) via Throttlestop. Sustained 3.7GHz was either not 100% stable thermally or power-throttling
    - AIDA64 CPU stress rock solid at the above settings with max temperature 86-88 Celsius. No throttling at 3.6GHz
    - Shadow of the Tomb Raider in-game benchmark average of 86fps Ultra/maximum settings (68-144 range) with RTX DLSS off
    - Please see the benchmark images for details

    GPU Overclocking
    - Stock GPU with CPU under-volt above achieved mid 15,000 in Fire Strike and 17,840 Graphics Score
    - I tried Overclocking GPU via MSI AB with Core +155 and Memory +60 (did not push too much here)
    - This achieved >16,000 overall score in Fire Strike and 18,992 GPU Score in Fire Strike!

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    Pros:
    - Solid build quality as per late 2018 Omen 15
    - 2070MQ 80W chip that can pull ~90W. Benchmarks are solid for this TDP
    - 144hz GSync Screen is vibrant - panel is LGD05FE. No backlight bleed on my unit
    - Keyboard is full-size with numberpad. No awkwardly placed macro keys or symbols
    - Thunderbolt 3 (I don't have a device so cannot confirm PCI-e lanes)
    - 3x USB 3, display port, HDMI, SD Card reader, separate microphone & headphone jacks
    - Speakers are Bang & Olufsen and are decent even with fans at maximum

    Cons:

    - Requires a bunch of tweaks to optimize; out-of-box experience is mediocre otherwise
    - Cannot turbo-boost to max (3.9GHz) for any sustained period of time; I opted for thermal performance at stable 3.6GHz boost
    - No maximum fan setting or controls - although the fan curve adapts quite well; I do not have a decibel measure but it is reasonably LOUD. Turning up the speakers is still ok though.
    - Not a true 90w 2070MQ
    - I needed to buy additional RAM and an NVME drive because HP overcharges for these upgrades
    - Plastic case needs patience to open (but all things easy to access once opened)

    I have not seen any in-depth reviews for this 2019 model so please post if you do have this laptop. UNTIL B0B (see below :))! I am not a professional reviewer so appreciate your comments!

    https://imgur.com/a/pm3zH0U? - Images of benchmarks. All are stock GPU with CPU undervolt other than the last image of 16K score with the OC'd 2070MQ at settings noted above

    B0B's review of the 2060 version:


    Discussion and comparison with Lenovo Y740:
     
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  2. heretofore

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    Thanks for telling us your experiences with this laptop.
     
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    Yes omen n g7 can't use i7 3.9ghz capacity without throttle
     
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    I picked up the DC10052nr and i'll review it then put it up for sale when finished.

    9750h
    2060
    2x8 RAM
    512 Samsung NVMe
    70 Whr battery
    144Hz screen
     
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    I ordered this one 2 days ago!!!

    Which specific nvme did you use? I'm seeing multiple variants of the HP EX920 512GB NVME with different write speeds. Obviously I'd like to get as fast as I can. And is this drive next to the 3.5" bay or is full disassembly required? Thanks in advance.
     
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    Hey B0B - I just watched your review (before seeing your post on this page, haha.
    That's odd that they would equip the 2060 model with a slightly different panel.

    I think with the 2070MQ one they use the one in my review above - LGD05FE - this is G-SYNC.
    The one in your review with the 2060 is LGD05C0.
    I appreciate you showing the performance mode differences - I think it feels like it makes more of a difference on my 2070MQ compared to a 2060. I don't have screenshots in default mode, but my Overall 3DMARK Firestrike scores were in the mid 14000s, with a jump to my scores above with Performance mode. I think you touched on the increased wattage well, maybe not as beneficial for the 2060 though? My 2070MQ was pulling better performance all around, not needing an undervolt (stays in the 70-80C range without issues). I'm surprised the 9750 did not get thermal throttled too much in your machine. Wonder if you tested it on AIDA64 load to see if it was throttling with an undervolt?

    I do not have any regrets with this laptop so far. I feel it is a sturdier build (hinge and all) than the Y740, and the FULL numpad without the macro keys on the left are a dealbreaker for the Y740 compared to this.
    I'll post a comment on your video linking to this post at some point.

    My part number is 2YY46AA#ABC for the EX920 I installed. Bought it off of Newegg.
    SEQ32Ti on Crystalmark for my machine I have 2486MB/s read and 1717MB/s write.
    The NVME slot is on the right if you align the fans to the top when you take off the back.
    Super easily accessible and there is a heat-spreader there if you don't have an NVME installed at stock. If you watch B0B's video, you can see the drive on his machine installed.
    The EX920 comes with the NVME screw so you also don't have to worry about that!
     
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    If you look closely on the desktop when the laptop is facing you during the review and you can see all the apps I had on there. I tested all sorts of stuff.

    Aida and Heaven were there

    I’m not going to clutter the review with all of that information anymore. It gets tested regardless. But wrapping all of these things into the review is a TON of work. A typical edit is about 6-10 hours long not including the actual testing and whatever problem solving is necessary.
     
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    I ended up getting this beauty at Micro Center after Bob's review. Specifically the HP OMEN 15-dc1052nr 15.6" , Intel Core i7-9750H Processor 2.6GHz; NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 6GB GDDR6; 16GB DDR4-2666 RAM; 512GB nvme, got all that for around $1100 which includes tax. The manager at my MC loves Military so she gives us discounts. I also picked up a 1tb Sata SSD for around $72. My unit, when running Intel XTU benchmarks without undervolt, was hitting max 89c. After .100v undervolt it was hitting max 85c but almost never stayed there for more than a second, and would subside to around 82c. Compare this to the 99c-104c the Dell XPS 15 with the 8750h I had in the same spot - in the same room - last week.

    Beyond thermals, this thing is a really solid feeling laptop for the price, the screen is incredible. I'd never thought I'd buy an HP, honestly never thought I would. I was primarily looking at some of the Asus and Dell models, but Dell keeps screwing me over with TERRIBLE customer service and overheating/constant bluescreen products. Very happy with this HP Omen.
     
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    Added your comparison with the Y740 to the initial post.

    I was wanting to know if you saw any thermal throttling while using AIDA / Heaven and stress testing.
    Now that you mentioned the increased TDP the CPU can pull, I think that may be a source of my thermal throttle - I didn't actually check my own system stress testing in-game and rather just went with the worst-case scenario with AIDA on the CPU.

    Might dial back up my 8750h Turbo Boost to default / limit at 3.9GHz and see in-game if I see any thermal throttling on my machine at some point.
     
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