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*HP ENVY 14 (1XXX series) Owners Lounge, Part 1*

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  1. 2.0™

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    Envy 14 slide show: http://www.flickr.com/photos/hp_pc/sets/72157623953419362/show/

    Envy 14 dimensions: 9.3 x 14 x 1.1 inches ; 14.5" Screen; 5.2 pounds


    *THREAD RULES*: (Be sure to read) http://forum.notebookreview.com/6460481-post5729.html

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    POLL and FEEDBACK THREAD: (Owners please vote.)
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-...hat-quality-condition-your-new-envy-14-a.html

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-envy-hdx/501066-envy-14-battery-life-log.html

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-envy-hdx/501144-envy-14-fan-noise.html

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-envy-hdx/501880-envy-14-boot-time-log.html

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-envy-hdx/499931-envy-14-gaming-lounge.html

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-...14-discounts-delays-mine-shipping-lounge.html

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-envy-hdx/496739-backpacks-envy-14-thread.html

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-envy-hdx/498550-envy-14-linux.html

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-envy-hdx/499592-envy-14-uk-thread.html

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-envy-hdx/493738-hp-envy-14-vs-alienware-m11x.html

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-...vy-14-vs-macbook-pro-13-music-production.html
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    F.A.Q.: By poster - Htwingnut

    CPU - that's the toughest because it all depends on what you want to do with your PC but here's my summary:

    i3 - dual core, multithreaded, integrated GPU, no Turbo Boost. Ok for basic desktop tasks like web browsing, flash, MS Office, and some gaming.
    i5 - dual core, multithreaded, integrated GPU, Turbo Boost. i5-430 and 450 are similiar CPUs but the 450 is newer and has slightly faster clock speed. Performance between the two in general is probably less than 10%. i5-520m offers some additional instructions for hardware virtualization and AES encryption which just aid in processing more quickly with a few other benefits
    i7 - quad core, multithreaded, no integrated GPU, Turbo Boost - Quad core is powerful, capable of processing eight threads simultaneously, clock speeds generally slower than an i5, but have advantage of processing more threads. No integrated GPU means less battery life because it will be using the dedicated GPU all the time. Most likely 50% less battery life.

    Screen - 1600x900 Radiance standard option, so not much to say, just it's supposed to be the absolute best.

    Note: Amazon is selling the HP ENVY 14-1010NR (WQ784UA#ABA) = 1366 x 768. Non-Radiance display.

    Hard Drive / SSD - Hard Drives = cheap, effective storage while adding noise, vibration, and heat. SSD = expensive, fast storage, with no vibration or noise with minimal heat and power consumption. SSD speed is superior to HDDs in two respects; they write 3 to 5 times faster and have seek times that are hundreds of times faster then a HDD. Current gen SSD's have a long life, probably much longer than you'd ever keep your laptop unless you do constant large read/writes to it 24/7.

    TYPE OF SSD USED IN THE ENVY 14: (Both support TRIM)
    160GB = Intel X-25M G2
    256GB = Samsung MMDOE56G5MXP-0VB​

    Memory = 4GB is sufficient for most. Two sticks is fine. You can get up to a negligible 5% performance benefit running dual channel, or two sticks of the same size and speed, as opposed to single stick. But a single stick gives the benefit of just popping in an additional RAM stick later. Otherwise, if you know you'll want 8GB later then maybe go with single 4GB.

    Though, you are best to match RAM sticks as mix-match of RAM manufacturers can lead to problems
    .

    So if you don't want to take that chance and you know you'll need more than 4GB, you may want to get it configured with 6GB or 8GB.

    A note about RAM usage: There are not many programs that will use up the sum of 4GB. Requiring more than 4GB is reserved for multitasking of powerful programs or for multitasking very many programs at once. Adobe suite products come to mind and well as some A/V production suite programs.

    Battery - The slice battery is apparently the "6 cell" battery they offer for $200 at the moment. It basically form fits the entire bottom of the laptop and is thin and gives up to an extra 100% or perhaps more battery life. No need to swap batteries as it works "smartly" with the built in 8 cell battery (59whr, 12.6 oz). Do a search at images.google.com for "envy slice battery" to see what it looks like. The trade off is that the slice adds weight (1lbs 15oz) and depth (14" x 9" x .5").

    Preliminary Battery Runtime Results: (without Slice battery installed) (As executed by Stefan HT) Suggested insertion: jfk33

    - WLAN = ON
    - Display brightness 60%
    - standby at 10%: disabled

    Result: 4:10 hours

    See Battery Life Log thread for posters with runtimes of 4:40 and 7hours.



    Wifi - Important note (submitted by poster e14) - On the German preconfigured model 1010eg, the wifi card is Broadcom and not Intel as HP has advertised. The US version is Intel as specified (Centrino advanced N 6200).

    FAN- The unit is set by default to run the fans at all times and at low speed at idle and during normal tasks. It can be disabled in BIOS. Though some users report that disabling it results in fans coming on even few seconds at medium.

    Comparative of Intel CPU options [i3-i5]: (Thanks to poster "Curse the sky")
    http://ark.intel.com/Compare.aspx?ids=49020,43537,49022,47341

    Comparative of Intel CPU options [i7 quad cores]:
    http://ark.intel.com/Compare.aspx?ids=43125,49024,43122,


    IMPORTANT INFORMATION ABOUT CPU THROTTLING ON BATTERY IN THE ENVY 14:
    - submitted by poster Aleckazee

    The processor is able to run at full speed when on battery not like on the Envy 15 where it would be limited to 1.2GHz.

    Proof: http://forum.notebookreview.com/6421176-post2308.html scroll down and you will see it.

    NOTE ABOUT i7 Processors: They do not allow for switchable graphics. Only dedicated. Therefore a unit outfitted with an i7 processor will consume more power and shorten battery life.

    NOTE ABOUT i3-370M Processor: (Contributed by Bronsky and Protiod) Unlike the i5 and i7, the i3's thermal maximum is 90 DegC (unlike 105 for i5/i7). Real world use would not see temps reach that high. But during CPU stressing, it can.


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    CPU Whine information and test procedure - by poster M.to.walker
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/6492940-post8941.html
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    If you touch the #of processor settings in MSCONFIG/boot/advanced options you will get false # of Core/Thread readings in CPU-Z.
    It will also lock your processor at one core and it will run at max speed.​
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    Discussion of SSDs: by poster "Curse the Sky"

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/6407652-post1159.html

    http://techreport.com/articles.x/19162/1 submitted by poster dirtymaf

    A few general tips for those getting an SSD and want to eek out a few more free GB - by poster HTwingnut.

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/6454980-post6010.html



    Slice Battery Info:

    HP Envy Slim Fit Extended-Life Notebook Battery 6 Cell, 62Whr that weighs 1 pound 15 oz. Dim. 14" x 9" x .5" Part number: 602410-001
    (The standard main internal battery: 8cell, 59whr, 12.6 oz).

    Picture of Slice and confirmation of its weight - by poster alaskajoel:

    http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd71/alaskajoel/P1000633.jpg

    A short video review showing slice battery:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMiaR2eYwao


    Touch Pad Information: Submitted by poster e14
    The user manual of the Envy 14 shows that the touchpad is NOT the new buttonless/hingeless 4-point synaptics hardware, its the same old clickpad from previous envies that has a hinge and 2 physical buttons.

    Example of what the new type of Synaptics touchpad can be seen here for comparison: http://www.trustedreviews.com/lapto...ur-Finger-Multi-Touch-and-MacBook-Style-To/p1


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    User manual (uploaded by erathostenes):
    http://www.badongo.com/file/23590866

    HP Notebook Reference Guide:
    http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c02178460.pdf

    Service/Maintenance Manual (thanks to poster wall of voodoo):
    http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c02835360.pdf
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    Unboxing Pictures:





    REVIEWS:

    Review in progress (compilation of impressions, benchmarks and photos by posters erathostenes, StefanHT and ademmer):
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/6421176-post2308.html

    FIRST LOOK VIDEO: by erathostenes
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv9yD6qu6hY

    A short video review showing slice battery:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMiaR2eYwao

    User review - by poster dannybht
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-...hp-envy-14-owners-lounge-727.html#post6479446 Pics: http://picasaweb.google.com/111086443434521382706/Envy14#5494778912285222514

    User Review - by poster Butr0sButr0s
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/6485031-post8029.html

    Video of Keyboard Flex - by poster thanatos82
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svAZ2esPY1g&feature=channel and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1xCHcMPnz4
    Whole keyboard with flex - posted by dphino - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4xM0owB9b0

    IMPORTANT NOTE: It appears that a fair number of owners are reporting CPU whine.
    Varies from subtle high pitched whir to annoyingly loud whine. While others report no whine at all. YMMV

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    Coupon codes:

    *THREAD RULES*: (Be sure to read) http://forum.notebookreview.com/6460481-post5729.html

    LOGIC50 = $50 off (Note: Can't be used with academic discount.)

    SVMB39487= $25 off your online order of $125 or more at the HP Home & Home Office Store.
    (Non-stackable... use for accessories.)
    Expires: 07/31/2010 - submitted by Derpderp... (<--- yeah, I know. :D )

    SVC55871= $10 Off. Submitted by krnspadez and tornbacchus.

    CashBack and Rebate Programs: (suggested by poster octalon7 and PeterDLai)

    Fatwallet: http://www.fatwallet.com/coupons-cash-back/HP-Home-Store/
    Bing cashback: http://www.bing.com/cashback/

    30% Bing Cash back is no longer available. Though, it seems to pop up early in the day and ends by mid-day EST.
    <s>NOTE: Bing cashback is now 30%! As of July 13

    To access it:
    1. Disable any browser ad blocking plugins
    2. go to this link: http://www.bing.com/shopping/
    3. Type HP Direct in bing search box
    4. You will see a banner ad that looks like the following:

    NOTE: Take a screen shot of page ad, search info, and Pop over in redirect that shows BCB 30% in case you run into trouble with Bing. Tip by poster andye39s.​
    5. Click on that banner ad and bing 30% pop-over will come up as it redirects to HP.com ​

    May not work with student discount or EPP.</s>​

    HP student discount: http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/s...do?template_type=guide&guide=student&tab=tab1
    Ebates: http://www.ebates.com/stores/hp.com.htm
    Mr. Rebates: http://www.mrrebates.com/

    Ebay Bucks: http://pages.ebay.com/rewards/faq.html

    Phone in price adjustment heads up contributed by Valismp

    "CPU prices for the Envy 14 were reduced July 3rd. If you ordered your Envy before the price reduction, call HP up and they will price-match your order. For instance, possible $45 back on an order for an Envy configured with an i520m. You have 21 days after receipt of the laptop to do any kind of price adjusting."​

    Special student phone in price adjustment for Win7 Pro heads up contributed by ChemE

    If you are a student you can call HP and let them know that Microsoft is offering Windows 7 Professional for $29.99.
    They should credit you the difference of ~$90 if you purchased it as CTO or offer it to you at this price if you are in the process of configuring.

    You will need to direct them to one of the following websites as proof:

    http://www.microsoft.com/student/en/us/software/windows.aspx
    http://www.microsoft.com/student/en/US/default.aspx


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    HP Laptop out of the box GUIDE Link suggested by DrPterodactyl

    Want to know what to do when you get you Envy?

    1. How to do a clean install?

    What bloatware is included or needs to/can be removed?
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-...-hp-laptop-out-box-guide-2-0-windows-7-a.html

    Win7 Clean install tutorial (step by step)- http://pcsupport.about.com/od/operatingsystems/ss/windows-7-clean-install-part-1.htm - submitted by donut3

    Free Windows 7 legal download links: http://forum.notebookreview.com/win...-7-download-links-just-like-vista-before.html
    NOTE: You can only use the same version as the one that came with your notebook

    2. How to setup the touch pad -
    Configuration by JJB
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/6468855-post6307.html

    Trackpad and hands interfere with each other significantly and PalmCheck isn't perfect while you're typing. Solved with TouchFreeze:
    TouchFreeze-1.0.2.msi - Project Hosting on Google Code - submitted by poster ColdHeat
    http://code.google.com/p/touchfreeze/downloads/detail?name=TouchFreeze-1.0.2.msi&can=2&q=

    Still the problem of right clicking? Solved by using Two Finger Scroll: Project Hosting on Google Code - submitted by poster ColdHeat
    http://code.google.com/p/two-finger-scroll/

    3. Website to assist in brightness/contrast adjustment: http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/contrast.php

    4. Audio Output Tweak - by poster JJB (works with Envy 14): http://forum.notebookreview.com/5668647-post3614.html

    5. Want to make your Envy, greener? :D (<--- Green smiley, ha ha. I crack myself up.)

    This program will lower power consumption: http://grano.la/
    Submitted by poster ColdHeat. ​



    Drivers Thread and Discussion:
    by poster justinkw1

    NOTE: Some Envy 14's are shipping with older BIOS dated 4/22/2010

    You may want to update to BIOS with date 6/18/2010
    You can download it from HP's website:
    http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/...&lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&lang=en&cc=us&submit=Go »

    Or see Justin's driver thread above for the latest BIOS update.

    Be sure to run it as administrator and have no windowed programs running (nothing on taskbar open).
    Otherwise you stand the chance of bricking your Envy. ​



    RECOMMENDED FREE SYSTEM SOFTWARE LIST:


    BatteryBar - Perhaps the most accurate battery runtime estimator: http://osirisdevelopment.com/BatteryBar/

    CPU-Z - processor information and status: http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html

    HWMonitor - system temperature monitor: http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html

    GPU-Z - GPU temperature and status monitor: http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/

    SIW - System information for Windows: http://www.gtopala.com/siw-download.html

    Karen's Time Sync - Synchronize computer's clock to one of the many ultra-precise time servers available on the Internet:
    http://www.karenware.com/powertools/ptsync.asp

    DPC Latency Checker - tool that analyzes the capabilities of a computer system to handle real-time Audio and video streams properly:
    http://www.thesycon.de/deu/latency_check.shtml

    FOR SSD/HDD BENCHMARKING AND DETAILED INFO:

    AS SSD Benchmark - http://alex-is.de/PHP/fusion/downloads.php?cat_id=4

    ATTO benchmark - http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/1137/ATTO_Disk_Benchmark_v2.34.html

    HD TUNE - http://www.hdtune.com/

    Crystal Disk Info (drive life, Trim support, SMART, etc) - http://crystalmark.info/software/CrystalDiskInfo/index-e.html

    *POST CLEAN INSTALL - *

    Missing that volume OSD?
    Well it's part of MediaSmart. Don't want to use MEDIASMART just for a buggy Volume OSD?
    Then download 3RVX - thanks to JJB
    http://www.intowindows.com/3rvx-skinnable-beautiful-volume-indicator-for-windows-7/
    With Envy Skin: http://www.mediafire.com/?bt9dd3t4jf8jzkf

    Can't get the Realtek Ethernet driver to install?
    Plug in ethernet cable that's connected to a network or computer. Try to install, let it fail(it will), then put the computer to sleep. Then wake it and it will finish installing correctly.
    Solution discovered by poster MagusDraco.

    Like the HP Stardock? Meh. Here's one better: ROCKETDOCK - http://rocketdock.com/

    Wifi Light stays blue? In SWSetup folder - find and install HPQL, reboot.
    Forgot to backup swsetup folder? Here's the HPQL uploaded by Magusdraco:
    http://www.mediafire.com/?bz8kbubdod4b3bv

    Mute light not changing color? Install IDT High Definition Audio driver.
    See Justin's driver thread or HP driver downloads for it.


    RECOMMENDED COMMERCIAL SYSTEM SOFTWARE LIST:


    LINUX on the ENVY 14


    Windows 7 system recovery ISO

    If you get startup problems and don't have a retail or OEM Windows 7 disk, you can use the following startup repair/system recovery option.
    It's a downloadable ISO that just contains Windows 7 startup repair for 32 and 64bit versions.

    http://neosmart.net/blog/2009/windows-7-system-repair-discs

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    And lastly...
    SANITY CHECK - posted by ciaol611
    From: www.xkcd.com/281

    [​IMG]

    :twitchy:

    NEED TO RETURN YOUR HP NOTEBOOK? You've got 21 days from day of delivery to do so.

    From HP's Website: (Thanks to poster Butr0sButr0s)

    To process a return or exchange

    We only accept returns for orders placed with the HP Home & Home Office Store by phone or online. We can not accept returns or exchanges for the HP Parts Store, the HP Small & Medium Business Store, repairs, or any other online store or retail outlet.

    Returns requests can be initiated by phone, or for many products by online chat.
    Step 1: Request a return material authorization number (RMA)
    * Call 1-888-650-1544 or use online chat (details below).
    * An RMA is required for all returns and exchanges.


    Step 2: Print your Return Label
    * You will promptly receive an email notification from FedEx that your HP Home & Home Office pre-paid return shipping label is available.
    * Follow the enclosed link to FedEx and print the label as soon as possible. This label will expire 5 days after issuance.


    Step 3: Prepare your package for return.
    * Replace the product in its original packaging, making sure to include all items originally in the box
    * Remove, mark-out, or cover any original shipping labels and affix the new label
    * Write in bold letters on the package: "RMA [your return material authorization number]". For example: RMA R123456789
    * Take the package to any FedEx package drop-off location within 5 calendar days of the RMA issuance.​

    Simple as that.

    [​IMG]

    How's my spelling? Dial 1-555-SPL-NAZI :D
     
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  2. omaralikhan92

    omaralikhan92 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hey guys, been creeping for longer than I can count. Figured now that this thread is up might as well start posting.

    So theres been a lot of chatter on the other E14 thread but how many people are actually planning on ordering on launch day? I am, I'll be in the states untill July 14th, if its not there by then I'll have to get someone to ship it to Canada for me, anyone know what the procedure/cost is for that?
     
  3. ostartero

    ostartero Notebook Consultant

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    I know I'll be ordering it on launch day.

    What upgrades is everyone going for?

    Personally...

    Screen upgrade (1600x900)
    i5-520m
    160gb SSD

    So I'm guessing it'll be $1525 before my 25% BCB and 10% academic discount.
     
  4. scishock

    scishock Notebook Consultant

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    ^haha, so did you take the dive like i did?
    <img src="http://www.mininotepc.com" height=0 width=0 />
     
  5. MagusDraco

    MagusDraco Biiiiiiirrrrdmaaaaaaan

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    Depending on coupons and the overall costs of the updates:

    Screen Update
    7 Professional 64-bit
    Bluetooth
    Slice
    520/540m
     
  6. ostartero

    ostartero Notebook Consultant

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    Well I'm buying my gift card tomorrow.

    But this is my reasoning. Worst case scenario, I don't get any BCB, there's no tax or shipping on the e-gift card so I lose absolutely nothing.

    So for a few hundred of dollars in cash back I think it's worth a try.
     
  7. ckthepilot

    ckthepilot Notebook Deity

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    Is the e14 going to be made available omn launch day or will this be a pre-order date?
     
  8. nexus14

    nexus14 Notebook Consultant

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    yes finally!

     
  9. seth83292

    seth83292 Notebook Consultant

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    Probably a screen upgrade, a 520/540 upgrade and MAYBE a slice
    BCB better save me some money here :p
     
  10. LiTh07

    LiTh07 Notebook Evangelist

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    I'll be getting one launch day if theres a good coupon or 25% BCB =]

    my upgrades:

    1600x900 screen
    i5 520 or 540 (depending on price)

    I am hoping I can get this for around $1000, after discounts.
     
  11. Mike415

    Mike415 Notebook Evangelist

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    Projected to be ordering:
    1600x900 Screen Upgrade
    450M
    1 DIMM 4GB
     
  12. L3vi

    L3vi Merry Christmas!

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    What an amazing Original Page.
     
  13. lagitup

    lagitup Notebook Consultant

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    Maybe this should've been locked down until closer to the delivery date?
     
  14. MagusDraco

    MagusDraco Biiiiiiirrrrdmaaaaaaan

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    probably. 10char
     
  15. 2.0™

    2.0™ NBR Macro-Mod® Super Moderator

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    LOL. Yeah, it's got that "'nuff said" quality about it. :D
     
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    ademmer Notebook Consultant

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    Already preordered the German Envy 14-1010eg: Core i5-520M, 4GB RAM, 500 GB 7.2k rpm HDD, 1600x900px screen resolution. Will order the slice battery as soon as it is available over here.
     
  17. maverickar15

    maverickar15 Notebook Consultant

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    I'm also up for

    1600x900 screen <<<----- must have for me.
    i5 450M or 520M depending on the price


    450m vs 520m - as far as the benchmarks I've seen are concerned, they don't seem to suggest too much difference in performance between the two. I know 520M has AES and other instructions enabled, but I'm skeptical how they translate into real world performance.
     
  18. Protoid

    Protoid Notebook Evangelist

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    1600x900
    i5 520m (maybe the 540)
    one 4GB RAM
    slice battery
    500GB 7200RPM HDD

    possibly:
    SSD
    bluetooth

    I'm going to be almost exactly 1000 miles away from my home when the 14 launches, I'll be back and ordering it on wed the 30th
     
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    PSICOM Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'm goin for
    1600x900 screen
    520M

    depending on BCB, I might get a Slice and 500gb 7200rpm HDD. Basically the specs of the German Envy-14-1010eg posted above.
     
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    Same here, also ordered with HP Germany. Promised delivery date between the 30th June and 2nd July. Still shows the same info in my delivery status..

    Waiting is getting difficult..!
     
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