HP EliteBook 8770w and 970M 6GB and 980M 8GB - they work!

Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by artpra, Jan 13, 2016.

  1. mirage_bg

    mirage_bg Notebook Evangelist

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    I think in both ways you’ve had a short circuit, mate...
     
  2. bobmook

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    Not entirely sure what you mean.....the k3000 x worked...so I left it on the k3000....The M5000m x worked .....so I left it on the M5000m. I can't imagine hardly anyone would have done it differently....... so I'm a bit confused.
     
  3. walks

    walks Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hello all, new here, and enjoying all this great information on the 8770w you have compiled over the years.

    This is my current setup:
    HP EliteBook 8770w
    i7-3630QM
    24GB of Ram
    500GB SSD
    1TB SSD
    FirePro M4000
    200W PSU

    I was getting ready to take my 8770w apart recently to reapply thermal compound to the cpu and gpu, as I have never done it since getting this new in 2013! But have been experiencing overheating issues lately, so figured it was about time. Then figured since I have to take it apart anyway, why not explore the option of upgrading the video card, something I have been wanting to do for a while now.

    So in my research, I happened upon this thread and read through it in it's entirety in preparation for this upgrade. After reading through the thread I have summed up the following:
    • We no longer need to modify the inf files since the cards are now recognized by the latests drivers
    • The bracket from the FirePro M4000 card can be reused for the GTX970M/GTX980M cards
    • We need to purchase the compatible cpu/gpu dual pipe heatsink and fan for GTX9x0M cards if your 8770w came with an M4000 originally
      • Heatsink Part# 696435-001(this came with the fan when I ordered it. YMMV)
      • Fan Part# 688762-001(or ZBook 17 fan Part#735373-001 if you are willing to mod it)
    • The Prema vbios is great if you can get it, but not required to get your card up and running
    • The 230W PSU is recommended if you plan to run the GTX 980M
      • Dell XM3C3 320/330W PSU is also an option
    Also, after reading through other peoples experiences, I decided to go with the GTX 970M since it had a lower power draw and lower temps. At the end of the day, I have been rocking the M4000 for all these years and it has served my occasional gaming needs, so the GTX 970M will be more than sufficient to keep this laptop going for a few more years.

    When I go to apply the thermal compound, I plan on using the IC Graphite Thermal Pad's instead of thermal grease as recommended earlier in this thread. That being said, I was curious if anyone needed to use any additional/external cooling when running the GTX 970M? I was looking at the external cooler Verklarung recommended in post #94:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...0m-8gb-they-work.786791/page-10#post-10525254

    but then remembered he was running the GTX 980M in his setup, so not sure if I will really need that for my setup with the GTX 970M. Any input on this is appreciated.

    Also I am assuming that my 200W PSU will be sufficient enough to accommodate my cpu and gpu with the following power consumptions:
    i7-3630QM (36-45 Watts)
    GTX 970M (81-100 Watts)
    That would work out to a 58-72% load

    Please let me know if I missed anything, or stated something incorrectly. Thanks!
     
  4. i-Diot

    i-Diot Notebook Enthusiast

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    GTX 980M works fine for me for 3 years now. Power draw and temps are fine
    39 degrees idle
    about 80-ish degrees full throttle for 1 hour

    I use 230W HP charger.
    Dell 320W charger is not an option - it's way waaaay too bulky.

    I'm now researching P5000M but I don't know if it's gonna work.
     
  5. Mastermind5200

    Mastermind5200 Notebook Virtuoso

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    People have gotten the 1070 to work with DC, if you don't need Quadro Features or +8GB VRAM its the way to go
     
  6. wiggs

    wiggs Notebook Enthusiast

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    Haven't checked this thread for some time... In the original order:
    1. Not sure how it works for people using GeForce-branded GPUs, but with Quadro that has HP BIOS you certainly don't need to modify anything.
    2. AFAIK, this is not true. Brackets for NVIDIA and AMD GPUs are physically different.

    P.S. Shameless plug. I am happy to sell my DreamColour 8770w as it's not really used anyway, pretty maxed-out config:
    Everything has latest firmware, repasted with Noctua NT-H1 and left in a drawer.
    Screenshot attached. PM me if you are interested.
     

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  7. mirage_bg

    mirage_bg Notebook Evangelist

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    With quadros above K-series you will get black screen on 8770W if you use it with HP vBios. With K3100/K4100/K5100m most probably too. The only cards which would work with HP vBios on 8770W are K3000/4000/5000m
    Dell vBios is a must for Maxwell and Pascal series Quadros.
     
  8. walks

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    So you are running fining without any additional/external cooling?
     
  9. walks

    walks Notebook Enthusiast

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    I was looking at the 980M and then 1070 at one point, but these were the best prices I could find:

    $260 for the GTX 980M
    $500 for the GTX 1070

    Ended up getting the GTX 970M 6GB for $170 as I thought that worked out pretty good from a price/performance standpoint. The temperature/power consumption was also a deciding factor of course, but the price definitely pushed this decision as well.

    Also not sure which power consumption numbers to officially go by. This is what eurocom lists for each MXM 3.0b card:

    GTX 970M - 75 Watts
    GTX 980M - 100 Watts
    GTX 1070 - 115 Watts

    If I find a good enough deal on a 1070 though, I may consider replacing the 970M, as I saw that mirage_bg got great performance from his upgrade without outrageous temperatures, would probably have to consider upgrading my 200W PSU as well if I went this route.
     
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  10. walks

    walks Notebook Enthusiast

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    In regards to the bracket, I saw that ododdit in post #65 mentioned he reused his bracket from the old GPU, his old GPU being the AMD FirePro M4000. So I assumed it could be done. Maybe he had to mod it for it to work? Now wondering what other users who upgraded from the M4000 to a GTX9x0M experienced?
     
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