HP EliteBook 8770w and 970M 6GB and 980M 8GB - they work!

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  1. TheKillerTacos

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    Well, i suck doing physical mods, so i wont risk it.
    What brand was the 980M from? if its from dell or hp, it will work, but if its not, find a vbios from hp, if it doesnt works well with a HP vbios, then try a Dell one, most Dell Vbios work on HP laptops,

    also youll need a better Power supply, or it will throttle, since it needs 112 watts.

    the 980m might support the 3dp with the dock you have from hp (the 230w version recommended)

    Well about the fans, i dont know, i dont do mods on laptops physically
     
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    It was an Alienware 980m. Are those equivalent to the ones for other Dell laptops? I currently have the 230W power supply. is that not enough?

    As for the displayport issue, I'll just copy what I said in the other thread here:
    "My concern was less about whether the GPU could handle 3 displays but more about if the GPU itself was actually the limiting factor (not some aspect of the mobo I was missing). For instance the K5000M is vastly more powerful than the AMD M4000 but only the M4000 can output to all 3 displayport outputs on the 8770w (out of the default gpus available for it). I'm certain a 980m could run 3x 2560x1440 displays at 144Hz, I'm just not certain if something else would limit me from outputting to all 3 DP outputs."

    The reason I need to be able to run all 3 via DP is because I need the 3 displays in an eyefinity/surround configuration, and therefore need all displays running at 144Hz. Currently my m4000 is able to do this, it just doesn't have the best gaming performance.
     
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    a 230w will handle the GPU,

    You wont have any issues at all just because its another brand, just try mounting the card and if you see no video output at all youll need to flash the 980m, if it doesnt you are good to go,
    The only issue you might find is a driver problem, and thats when you have to make modified drivers.

    I also think that the 980M would handle the 3 DP,
     
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    I'm happy to report that upon receiving my GTX 980M today, I've successfully installed it and the drivers (using the wonderful tips found earlier in this thread) and EVERYTHING is working GREAT. Performance is good. So far, I've only hit 88C max and haven't noticed any throttling. I'm also using an external cooler with my laptop so whenever it's not under load, it goes back down REALLY fast. The only tricky thing was consistently getting all 3 of my displayport screens working, but I think I finally cracked it. You have to start with the DP directly on the laptop DISCONNECTED. Have the laptop OPEN, then connect it to the dock (which connects it to the other 2 DP screens. THEN close the laptop to disable the laptop screen. ONLY THEN plug the 3rd DP screen into the laptop's DP connector. It's not too much of a hassle once you've done it a few times, and the performance gain VASTLY outweighs the slight inconvenience.

    EDIT

    For anyone curious, this is the external cooler I'm using with my 8770w: https://www.amazon.com/Temperature-...&qid=1494555409&sr=8-2&keywords=opolar+cooler
    Unlike most cooling pads and such, this actually draws air directly out of the laptop, causing it to be MUCH more effective at cooling. Installing it on the 8770w isn't as straightforward as on most laptops, but dead simple still. This is due to a thin permanent mount you adhere to the back of the laptop. A metal clip on the unit slips into this, holding the fan in place when in use. The only thing is, the area the mount has to adhere to overlaps with the rear cover slightly. The solution is to just cut the corner of the adhesive off the back of the mount in the corner that overlaps the rear cover. Then the rear cover can still be removed easily while still using the mount (which is vastly better than the optional temp mount included, a plastic flap that hardly secures it).
     
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    Excellent! can you keep me updated on any errors or anything great from the card? I might consider save up $$ to buy a 980m
     
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    I'll be sure to let you know if anything comes up.

    I've played a few different games on here now and it's NEVER gone over 88C so far. Within minutes of stopping the game, I see it return back to around 65C (but keep in mind this is with chrome still open so the card hasn't throttled down to low power states at all). I'll note that according to MSI Afterburner, I have a TON of room to overclock this card as well. Obviously unless I did some crazy hardware mod to watercool my laptop or something, I probably won't be overclocking lol.

    A funny thing happened just now when I realized I hadn't tested Overwatch yet. I loaded up the game and my very first thought was "Why the heck is the frame rate so low?", as it was around 55fps or so. I took a peek at the settings to see if something had happened, and sure enough, Overwatch's thing to automatically detect the "best" settings had noticed my change in GPU and promptly set half the options to high and the remaining to freakin ULTRA. I did end up putting the settings down to something a bit more sane for a better frame rate, but still, not bad for a workstation laptop that's just over exactly 5 years old now (the 8770w was announced on May 9, 2012 according to Wikipedia).
     
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    Well, IDK if the CPU Will ever Bottleneck it, i dont know how to guess it or test it at all, but yea, even for a 5 year old laptop its still great!
     
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    I was lucky enough to get the i7 3920XM (2.9GHz turbo to 3.8GHz) in here as well so I don't think I need to worry about my CPU for quite a while . . . :p

    So upon closer analysis, I am seeing the GPU occasionally throttle from 1038MHz to 848MHz. Seems to happen when it's been setting in the high 80's for a while. I wonder if there's a way to control this behavior or at least fine tune it a bit more . . . I was actually considering looking into some of those hardware mods that people have done for better laptop cooling (soldering on more copper pipes and such).
     
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    Well, Here a little thing that happend to my K4000M when i started using the 8770w again, the gpu had heat throttles at just 80c, after some weeks,
    i get over 100c on cpu and 90c on gpu (somehow this **** doesnt shut down) and the GPU no longer Throttles, just try playing games, if it goes off then idk, i did so and the throttle went away,

    Also to have your Laptop fan at 100% download NoteBookFanControl in Github, and select the profile from the 8760w, im using that one and it has been working fine,
     
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    Nice, I'll have to try that. Looking up NoteBookFanControl right now as well. Between that and my external fan, I'll be moving quite a bit of air.
    Quick update for you, with no games and just chrome running (so the GPU still hasn't fully clocked down), it's resting at a nice 62C at the moment.

    EDIT

    Wow. This tool is nice. I'm now idling at 5̶9̶C̶ 5̶8̶C̶ 5̶7̶C̶ 56C (?!?!?!?!?!?!) with both the internal and external fans running full blast (and chrome still running). It actually took 5̶C̶ 6C off. I'm impressed.

    EDIT

    ayyyy comment #100

    EDIT

    after flipping between 55C and 56C over and over, it finally settled on 55C. :p
     
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