*HP EliteBook 8740w Owners Lounge - PART 2*

Discussion in 'HP Business Class Notebooks' started by Aikimox, Sep 7, 2010.

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What is your EliteBook 8740w config (select one from each category)?

  1. Non-DreamColor2 screen

    95 vote(s)
    34.9%
  2. DreamColor 2 Screen

    114 vote(s)
    41.9%
  3. Dual-core Processor

    63 vote(s)
    23.2%
  4. Quad-core Processor

    137 vote(s)
    50.4%
  5. ATI M7820 Graphics

    121 vote(s)
    44.5%
  6. Nvidia FX 2800M

    43 vote(s)
    15.8%
  7. Nvidia FX 3800M

    47 vote(s)
    17.3%
  8. Nvidia FX 5000M

    27 vote(s)
    9.9%
  1. RampageII

    RampageII Notebook Evangelist

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    Yeah, OK.....:rolleyes:

    You like to watch movies at extreme angles on your laptop?
    I'll have to try that some time.
    RGB and 110% adobe color gamut to watch movies?.... right on. :laugh:

    No, not yet.
    I've been meaning to try that.
     
  2. Koshinn

    Koshinn Notebook Deity

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    Way to straw man. :rolleyes:

    You ignore my primary reasons for purchasing the screen, ignore the fact that you claim that people purchased DC2 to play games and change your argument to something akin to "watching movies is a waste of an IPS screen," without realizing that, maybe unlike you, I don't watch movies alone.

    You do realize that probably 95% of HDTVs do NOT use TN panels, right?
     
  3. RampageII

    RampageII Notebook Evangelist

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    haha,

    See, this is the part where after reading this "(not all)" from my original post, you would have paused for a moment and said to yourself; 'He's definitely not referring to me' and simply dismiss my comment.

    But what do you do instead?
    You get defensive about it.

    If my comments do not apply to you why do you get defensive? LOL :laugh:
     
  4. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    It's ~ 150% sRGB ;)

    After you almost ordered the "DC2 screen" from eBay for 450$, it's somewhat strange to hear those "anti-good-screen" comments. It almost sounds as if you regret not getting it in the first place.

    Another thing is, how can you dare to comment on a screen you haven't seen???
    The difference between the DC2 and regular laptop TN LED screens is so enormous that if money isn't a big issue (and that's the case here if I understand the question correctly) one absolutely must have it.
    You'll notice it in everything: movies, photos, gaming, you name it...
    Needless to say that returning to my M17X RGB LED (the second best screen up to date) was impossible. I simply can't look at TN screens now.
     
  5. NotebookGrail

    NotebookGrail Notebook Evangelist

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    For a moment i thought i went back in time...

    Same arguments- no one willing to give up :)
     
  6. HiddenUser

    HiddenUser Notebook Evangelist

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    @RampageII:

    In fact, the DreamColor screen is not the best partner for the hardcore gamer. Despite of the "bring your games into life" feature with its real 8-bit per color component output, and assuming the game supports that color depth (that is, up to 16.7M colors simultaneously, when normal latop screens only can output up to 262,144 colors at the same time), it suffers from quite a bit lag. Koshinn made tests before and he realized that 50ms lag is the average for this screen. This is not acceptable for hardcore gamers, but for the occasional gamer it is, of course.

    All in all, the DC2 screen is an 'all rounder' IMHO. Manly focused for working with graphics, you can benefit from its technology watching movies with superb color reproduction (I'm pretty sure this baby puts almost all other laptop screens to shame) and playing colourful and rich detailed games (if you're not a hardcore gamer), but gaming is not the intended use. After all, HP isn't going to create a top notch professional notebook only for gaming, or is he? LOL :D

    @Aikimox: I think you should add to the DC2 screen features the average lag measured by Koshinn and put a note similar to this: *this screen is not intended for hardcore gamers* ;)
     
  7. RampageII

    RampageII Notebook Evangelist

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    Even better! Thanks Aikimox. ;)


    You're right, I was tempted. You know me, I can't resist a good deal.
    Oh, and it would have been $400 in my case. :biggrin:
    But then I came to my senses. lol


    Where have I ever said that DC2 is not a better display? :confused:

    Where did I say it was the "best partner for the hardcore gamer"? :confused:
    I only said it would make the colors look pretty. ;)

    Well, we gotta do something if we ever wish to reach 300+ pages again right? ;) :D LOL
     
  8. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    If I remember correctly, the lag wasn't discovered in games but in some music instruments simulator program.
    I was trying to see that lag in FPS online games and never encountered it.
    The only mild lag was discovered in 2D games and apps (credits to Gaah) and is only related to immature drivers.
    There are no games (at least in my library) that suffer from the the input lag, and I game enough to claim it.
    So, let's call this subject "Under Further Investigation" before we come to some firm conclusions.

    @RampageII,
    I understand. It's just that the original question was about a very good screen when money isn't an issue and since the guy works in software development (as I do) I can definitely say that it is worth the upgrade.
     
  9. RampageII

    RampageII Notebook Evangelist

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    Are you talking about the post from "improwise"?
    Did you miss the part where he said;

    "I want a screen that looks and feels really good, but since I dont do any graphical work, color matching, oversaturation etc. really isnt a problem. Is the DreamColor mainly intended for these requirements, and so isn't really worth paying extra for in my case?"

    I would say the standard WUXGA or even the WXGA displays are great candidates for what he needs.
     
  10. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    I guess, we should ask him to clarify this point but my impression from his post is that he's not so worried about paying extra.
    In fact, the most expensive GPU option (FX5000M) is 1.5k above the price of the M7820 and was willing to pay for the most expensive one.
    Anyway, let him come and speak his mind again :)
    Still, I'd go for DC2 even if needed to sacrifice the performance.
     
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