*HP EliteBook 8740w Owners Lounge - PART 2*

Discussion in 'HP Business Class Notebooks' started by Aikimox, Sep 7, 2010.

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What is your EliteBook 8740w config (select one from each category)?

  1. Non-DreamColor 2 screen

    96 vote(s)
    35.0%
  2. DreamColor 2 Screen

    114 vote(s)
    41.6%
  3. Dual-core Processor

    64 vote(s)
    23.4%
  4. Quad-core Processor

    138 vote(s)
    50.4%
  5. ATI M7820 Graphics

    123 vote(s)
    44.9%
  6. Nvidia FX 2800M

    43 vote(s)
    15.7%
  7. Nvidia FX 3800M

    47 vote(s)
    17.2%
  8. Nvidia FX 5000M

    27 vote(s)
    9.9%
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  1. 83bj60

    83bj60 Notebook Evangelist

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    Good question - one if my 8730ws was running W10 without a cinch and quite smoothly from my experience so if that's any indication for the more recent 8740w, I don't think you'll have any issues either.

    Fact is, there aren't many people still using this 'antique', from I've been noticing. Just be patient, I'm sure Triturbo, who's apparently the resident expert, will show up with some more valuable input than I.

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    HiddenUser Notebook Evangelist

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    I think it's unique because of its 16:10 Dreamcolor 2 screen (the last one, newer screens are 16:9 and new ZBooks not even have a DC screen... or am I wrong?). However it's not perfect, I have the infamous green and pink bands even with calibration using Mobile Display Assistant, but HP told me this is 'normal'... a 800€ screen with green and pink bands... what the hell!
    Thanks for your input indeed :)
     
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    I feel your pain! I can't get help noticing it every time I'm looking at a white background. The woes of having perfect color discrimination!!!

    Then again, my eyes hurt if I have to work on a white background for any length of time, so I usually work with white or light gray characters on black and it doesn't bother me then.
    As soon as I get my hands on the spare 8740w in the next few weeks, I'll be able to compare as this one comes with the white LED backlit screen.
     
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    I remember perfectly this issue is only present in DC2 screen, so no, you won't have any issues with light backgrounds. But in turn you don't get IPS, wide viewing angle, 1 billion colours (to be exact, 2^30 = [ 2^10 for Red ] * [ 2^10 for Green ] * [ 2^10 for Blue ] )...
     
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    Hahaha, true enough, but you have to have applications that can actually benefit from this ;) But indeed, the most interesting thing is the IPS technology with its wider viewing angle and greater image contrast, which really shines under bright lighting :D

    In any case, LED backlighting being already a step ahead from the old CCFL technology used in the 8730w, I expect the picture quality to be quite acceptable. I certainly won't complain considering I got it for CAD50, even if it means replacing a couple of MOSFETs on the motherboard ;)

    Anyway I should stop talking about it, don't want to jinx it; my friend hasn't picked it up for me yet and although the seller pulled it out the kijiji ads, you never know! Sooo, knock on wood!!!
     
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    Any news on this? I'm interested in knowing how the LED screen is.

    On the other hand I'm seriously thinking in selling my 8740w with DreamColor 2 screen included. It has very few usage, less than 6 months. It has been kept in its suitcase for 5 years because I've only used my desktop computer for my work. There are no scratches on any external part, including the lid, condition is flawless. I can post pictures for everyone is interested, but only for european people due to customs. BIOS version installed is F.0B (downgradable). I'm from Spain. Thanks.
     
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    The laptop has been purchased by my friend but it's half a province away and he's taking it easy after an operation so we haven't had the opportunity to see each other. I'm just as anxious to see it as you are ;-)

    Sounds like the life mine has had since I purchased it - it's such a 'gas guzzler' in terms of power consumption I rarely use it ;-) That Nvidia 5000M was probably amazing for CAD and crunching numbers with its numerous Nvidia cores but I've never had the chance to use any software that could benefit from it ;-)

    I would think that with the DC2 and the F.0B BIOS it would be very valuable especially if it's in great condition (what about the buttons, keyboard and touchpad?) - but it's all relative to what the market price is for the regular model. Here people have a hard time selling them for more than $200. There's an 8740 on the local market that is sitting at $300, for a week, the week before he had it listed at $400. I got my last 8730w for $100, and it had been for sale for weeks at $150. In my opinion you will only be able to reach a collector or afficionado, so be very patient.
     
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    The switch cover is fine. All buttons respond properly. Touch stick and touch pad are as new, there are no sunken buttons. Keyboard installed is backlit version (spanish language) and there is no signal of wear.
    Only? That beast costed 4000€ as is a built-to-order unit. Wow, it seems I have no luck... What do you recommend to sell it at a reasonable price? I'm not going to sell my laptop for $300 for sure...

    Thanks in advance.
     
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    The rubber cover is the first thing to go on the buttons of a well used a machine... I replaced mine twice on my 8730w work machine, although I have found that simply removing the rubber works just as nice once you sand the plastic surface down. I also had the pointing stick nib break (not just the rubber cover) and a touchpad wear out ;-) I guess I have very abrasive fingers, because keyboards and wrist rests don't last long with me, hahaha

    $300 would be for a standard model 8740w - But you've got the DC2 and that's a major selling point that should double its value. More if you have an Nvidia 5000M, with its Cuda cores that were highly sought out for CAD work. That restricts your market for potential buyer quite a bit, and then again, mostly for nostalgia reasons! An engineer friend of mine still loves his 8740w, but has moved on to a more recent machine (I forget the model, I believe its an 8760w?) for work, he says the newer screens are better than the old ones and the newer machine is much speedier and runs much cooler as well...

    As for your selling price, I can only relate to the market here. I suggest you check what these machines sell for on eBay in your area (not prices ended, but actually sold) to give you an idea what to expect or ask for...

    About the original 4000€ price - Honestly, I would have never paid that amount for ANY laptop, not only because the value drops so fast, especially in the first year, but also because these machines were never worth that much to begin with, quality wise, at least in my experience. As a matter of fact, the 'consumer grade' Toshiba that cost me $700 new in 2007 never failed in the 10 years we've had it, apart from a worn down and broken plastic case that I replaced and the keyboard that my wife killed with beer a couple of years ago and that I could not find a replacement for (it's used as 'The Netflix Machine' with an external screen now, lol), whereas I had to replace several electronic components on my 8730w over a lesser span of time (screen more than twice, SD card reader, WiFi card, keyboard twice, button assembly, screen bezel, wrist rest and recently, motherboard) and had a similar experience with her Compaq...

    Furthermore, HP has been known to have highly inflated pricing, perhaps to give it a nice negotiating margin as they were routinely sold at a significant rebate if buyers played their dealers right.

    In other words... That 4000€ doesn't mean much, especially not for a prospective buyer. What means something, and mostly for those who know, is The DC2 screen, the Quadro 5000M video card if you have one and the quad core processor. But it better have at least 8GB of main memory and an SSD if you really want to attract interest ;-)

    Moral of the story: you never get any value close to what you feel it is worth on the used market for any laptops, especially high-end custom builds - it's just not possible. The market is simply saturated, even for new ones. Unless it becomes desirable because it's 'vintage', and I'm not sure these HPs will ever qualify for that status, like the old IBM-era Thinkpads models with 2048x1536, 4x3 aspect ratio screens did.
     
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    The rubber cover (of top cover) is flawless too. As I said, I have not used this laptop very much.
    I have everything but the Quadro (my graphics card is the FirePro M7820). This is my custom setup when I ordered this machine:
    The SSD (Micron Real SSD C300) and the HDD (Hitachi Travelstar 7K500) are in perfect status according to Hard Disk Sentinel.

    Do you think I have any possibility to sell it for, let's say, 600-700€? I also have a new top cover (as a spare part bought apart) included with the bundle for free. Thanks a lot for your help.
     
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