*HP EliteBook 8730w Owners Lounge*

Discussion in 'HP Business Class Notebooks' started by darkmax, Nov 17, 2008.

  1. 83bj60

    83bj60 Notebook Evangelist

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    I wouldn't say they are a dime a dozen but they are definitely much more common and much cheaper as well.

    Actually I find the 8730w to be even nicer than the 8740w, except for the speed. The keyboard is great, not so the one on the 8740w. The fan and radiator is much easier to clean on the 8730w as well, you practically have to dismantle half of the machine to access the 8740w's. The fact it burns through batteries compared to the 8730w is not so great either. And its USB3.0 native implementation is quite poor (I get better results with an add-on card). Finally, its docking station can't drive older Dual link DVI like the 8730w's does.

    Hardware wise, what I don't like about the 8710, 30 and 40 is the really cheap trackpad (button covers come off within a year, surface gets worn out after 2) and the frankly unusable 'touchstyk' which doesn't come nearly as close to the responsiveness and ease of use of the the original Lenovo trackpoint. I would have gotten the flagship Lenovo machine at the time if it hadn't been for the DreamColor screen of the 8730w, which I ended up having to replace replace three times over 10 years ;-) And let's not forget my having to replace the motherboard on the 8730w once, the WiFi card and the hard drive... Compare that to my 12 year old Toshiba P205 consumer grade laptop on which I only had to replace the cheap plastic case and keyboard over its 12 years... Considering how hard my wife is with it (I've stopped counting the number of times she spilled coffee or wine on it ;-) , it's proven to be in fact more reliable than the 'military grade' 8730w ;-)
     
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  2. Kristijonas

    Kristijonas Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hello guys, it's me again :D

    This time I have an unusual question -

    Is the 8730w (with 3700m) capable of using these monitors?:
    1. 1920x1200 @75hz ?
    2. 1920x1200 @60hz, but the display is 10bit (is the 3700m even capable of reproducing that?)

    What connectors would I need? Are the the connections, like HDMI, in the 8730w good enough (not old enough) to support 10bit colors of these higher resolutions with higher frequencies??

    Thanks for any insights! I want to set up a new monitor to connect from this workstation and I'm worried whether it'd even support them.
     
  3. Kristijonas

    Kristijonas Notebook Enthusiast

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    Here it seems to suggest everything since fx 580 in quadro line supports 10bit color displays? http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2426/related/1/session/L2F2LzEvdGltZS8xNTI5NTM5MDUzL3NpZC9mVUs3N2dsOUJfSXBuUkRDYXhSdkIyd1RsTG43RlQ3NHRwT2pYaTR0WHNKaVRWZVlDa2hTX1gzM05TYUdtb2lzX1YwdXZBNGpjamdXUnZoNE94ZTVsdTBuMVlXR3hZM1FMOEtQQyU3RVlPS0E1andxNW5HZUNPM3dZdyUyMSUyMQ==
    If that's true, does it hold true to 8730w as well? Does the 8730w have the necessary external connectors to do that?
    Is the HDMI version of 8730w enough for 1920x1200@60hz@10bit ? Is it enough for 75hz?
     
  4. 83bj60

    83bj60 Notebook Evangelist

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    Not sure about the 10 bit thing, but I'm happily running a 2660x1600 NEC PA301 from the docking station (required) and AFAIK it's a 10 bit panel.

    Running screens directly? Too many limitations from the existing ports (VGA andHDMI)

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  5. Kristijonas

    Kristijonas Notebook Enthusiast

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    How do you know it's running at 10bit for you?
     
  6. 83bj60

    83bj60 Notebook Evangelist

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    Let me check... How would I find out?

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  7. 83bj60

    83bj60 Notebook Evangelist

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    Ok so I downloaded the NEC 10 bit colir depth demo application and it requires display port, which the 8730w docking station doesn't provide. "DVI will not natively support 30 bit deep color" says nVidia https://www.nvidia.com/docs/IO/40049/TB-04701-001_v02_new.pdfhere

    In other words 10 bit is not possible with the 8730w unless you can find a Display Port adapter for it!

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  8. Kristijonas

    Kristijonas Notebook Enthusiast

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    Shouldn't it support HDMI connections as well?
    Sorry, but I don't know how to check 10bit colors/30bit displays myself. Really curious.

    I want to buy a 10bit display but it'd be really pointless for me if it wouldn't display 10bit colors using my 8730w.

    Really need to know this! As far as I know, 3700m should support 10bit. I'm just not sure if the connection (HDMI, VGA or DVI) in 8730w or its dock would be enough for 10bit.

    Hope someone could clarify this.
     
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  9. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    The 8730w's Quick Specs say that it has HDMI 1.3 so it should support up to 2560x1600 @60Hz 10bit. In theory if you get active HDMI to DP, it would do. Maybe even passive would do. Can't tell really, the first sentence is by HP themselves, so you can base your guesses on it. Would be curious if the NEC test runs over HDMI, but then there aren't many 10bit monitors with HDMI 1.3, if any.
     
  10. Kristijonas

    Kristijonas Notebook Enthusiast

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    HDMI is backwards compatible, so no worries! You can connect a HDMI 999.999 to your HDMI 1.3 computer and it will work fine if the resolution/frequency/colors are not above 1.3.

    It seems 10bit should be no problem! It would be really nice if you could test if 83bj60 could test if 10bit really works for him by connecting a 1.3+ HDMI cable straight from 8730w to his 10bit display and running some kind of a test.

    Or triturbo, since you too seem to have a 10bit display, please? :)
     
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