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  1. Sebl

    Sebl Notebook Guru

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    Does anyone have the DUAL IDA Bios still avaiable?
     
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    galaxina Newbie

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    I've been looking a few weeks now and still no-one seems to have it. Surely someone does? Could they PM me if possible or post a link? Would be really grateful
     
  3. ntty

    ntty Notebook Enthusiast

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    Try looking here:

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-...-bios-hdx9000-87x0-85x0-6x10-27x0p-25x0p.html

    I played with that ages ago and my memory might not be that good, but I think I remember the gain was almost impossible to see anywhere else than in benchmarks. I finally went to an extreme core processor and overclocked it but it was overheating and throttling. So I moved it to a bigger laptop but to getting the boost that you really feel meant lot of fan noise and less battery life, annoying. I ended up using low power CPUs offering close performance and went to SSD drive that made a huge difference.

    I can't remember all the details (IDA provides boost on one of the two cores, this IDA mod would provide you with the same boost on the other core, which means something like 200mhz more on one core only, right?), but to be honest I've never got anything really interesting from those tunes.
     
  4. przemke

    przemke Notebook Geek

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    Funny, I never changed the fan because it stopped making noise. Couple of days ago I thought the fan eventually suddenly died because - when the laptop was running - I heard like a creek sound and saw quite much smoke coming from the vent holes. But then I hear the fan is still running and laptop is stable so far. Don't know what might have burnt but I will probably disassemble to check and change the fan too when have some spare time
     
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    Indrek Notebook Virtuoso

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    Are you sure it was smoke? Could have been a dust build-up that was suddenly expelled. Though that doesn't explain the sound you heard...

    I'd advise you to check it out immediately. Any time anything resembling smoke comes out of an electronic device, it's generally not good news (because once the magic smoke escapes, things stop working).
     
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    przemke Notebook Geek

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    Think it was, somethin popped and released its magic ;) However the thing was either more magic so it didn't cease to operate OR it's function's were not essential for the mobo to be operating. Normally I would check immediately but I have some more important stuff to do right now, so we'll see how tough the mobo is ;) Seen 6930p mobo's are quite cheap now.
     
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    [​IMG] Windows 8.1 Compatibility Report


    I just finished upgrading my 6930p to Windows 8.1 Pro and thought I'd share my experiences with regards to hardware compatibility. Overall Windows 8.1 runs extremely well and it's possible to get a completely clean Device Manager (i.e. no unknown devices).

    My specs are as follows: Intel Core 2 Duo P8800, 8 GB DDR2, Intel GMA 4500MHD, WXGA+ CCFL display, 180 GB Intel 335 series SSD + 500 GB WD Scorpio Black, Intel WiFi Link 5300AGN, Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit.

    Driver Availability Matrix


    The following table lists, for each device, the latest driver that is available a) out-of-the-box, b) through Windows Update, and c) from the device manufacturer. The driver provider, date and version are taken from Device Manager.

    DeviceOut of the boxWindows UpdateFrom device mfgr
    Chipset/SATAMicrosoft
    2006-06-21
    6.3.9600.16384
    Intel
    2013-07-25
    9.1.9.1005
    Graphics (Intel)XIntel
    2013-03-11
    8.15.10.2702
    Graphics (ATI)??AMD
    2013-01-21
    13.1
    EthernetMicrosoft
    2012-06-25
    10.1.10.1
    Wi-Fi (Intel)Microsoft
    2011-10-07
    14.2.1.4
    Intel
    2012-01-22
    14.3.2.1
    Wi-Fi (Broadcom)???
    AudioMicrosoft
    2013-08-22
    6.3.9600.16384
    AnalogDevices
    2009-05-18
    6.10.2.7255
    BluetoothMicrosoft
    2006-06-21
    6.3.9600.16384
    Broadcom
    2013-10-18
    12.0.0.8047
    WebcamMicrosoft
    2006-06-21
    6.3.9600.16384
    Quick Launch ButtonsXHewlett-Packard
    2011-01-24
    7.0.1.1
    TouchpadXSynaptics
    2010-06-03
    15.0.24.0
    Synaptics
    2013-02-25
    16.3.15.1
    Fingerprint readerXXAuthenTec
    2009-11-24
    2.0.0.18
    Smart card readerXRicoh
    2006-10-03
    1.7.0.1
    Memory card readerXXRicoh
    2009-06-25
    6.10.1.3
    AccelerometerXXHewlett-Packard
    2012-09-24
    4.2.9.1

    Driver Download Links


    The download links below are for 64-bit versions. Where possible, I've also tried to briefly describe an alternative way to find each driver, in case the direct links go down, or you need the 32-bit version for some reason.
    Note: For the Intel links, if the alternative method doesn't work either, try starting with "Discontinued Products". Intel currently seems to consider the Series 4 chipset an active product, but that might change in the future.

    sata

    Intel® Chipset Device Software (INF Update Utility)


    Download link: https://downloadcenter.intel.com/De...g&OSVersion=Windows 8.1*&DownloadType=Drivers
    Alternative: Intel Download Center → Active Products → Software Products → Chipset Software → Intel Chipset Software Installation Utility

    ati

    AMD Catalyst™ Display Driver


    Download link: http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop/legacy?product=legacy2&os=Windows 8 - 64
    Alternative: AMD Drivers + Support → Notebook Graphics → Radeon HD Series → Mobility Radeon HD 3xxx Series → (select OS)

    wifi

    Intel® PROSet/Wireless Software and Drivers for Windows 8*


    Download link: https://downloadcenter.intel.com/De...8, 64-bit*&DownloadType=Software Applications
    Alternative: Intel Download Center → Active Products → Wireless Networking → Intel Wi-Fi Products → Intel WiFi Link 5300 and Intel WiFi Link 5100 products
    Note: I recommend downloading the driver-only version that doesn't include Intel's PROSet software.

    touchpad

    Synaptics drivers


    Download link: http://www.synaptics.com/resources/drivers
    Note: This version supports multi-touch gestures as well as Windows 8 edge swipes.
    Note: Windows Update will keep offering the older version, but you can right-click and hide it.

    fpr

    Authentec TrueSuite Starter


    Download link: http://falconfour.wordpress.com/2010/04/14/authentec-truesuite-starter-for-windows-7-x86x64
    Note: The driver is for Windows 7, but works fine in Windows 8 as well. To enable fingerprint login, go to PC Settings → Accounts → Sign-in options.
    Note: There's a different version available from HP (SP47729, v8.0.200.42), but it's driver-only and doesn't actually enable fingerprint login. You'd also need the TrueSuite software, but with Authentec having been acquired by Apple and their website taken down, I couldn't find an official download.

    sd

    Ricoh Media Card Reader Driver


    Download link: http://h20565.www2.hp.com/portal/si...x.portlet.endCacheTok=com.vignette.cachetoken
    Alternative: HP Support Center → search for "6930p" → Drivers, Software & Firmware → (select model) → (select OS) → Driver - Storage → Ricoh Media Card Reader Driver
    Note: The driver is for Windows 7, but works fine in Windows 8 as well.

    3dd

    HP 3D DriveGuard


    Download link: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareDownloadIndex?cc=us&lc=en&dlc=en&softwareitem=ob-116584-1
    Alternative: HP Consumer Support → search for "sp61037"
    Note: Action Center will probably also notify you about this driver.
    Note: Requires .NET Framework 3.5, enable it in "Turn Windows features on or off".
    Important note: If, like me, you have a dual-drive system with an SSD in the primary bay, you may find that this version of the 3D DriveGuard application will only recognise the primary bay, and will subsequently disable drive protection, even if you have a HDD in the upgrade bay. This is probably due to it being designed for HP's consumer-class laptops that do not officially support a secondary hard drive. If so, consider switching to the older Windows 7 version that's meant for business-class laptops (SP47282, v4.0.5.1, from here). It supports both drive bays and will properly engage drive protection for the upgrade bay when movement is detected (you can test it yourself by moving the laptop suddenly and observing the HDD LED at the front left turn amber). The actual driver will stay at the newer version, only the 3D DriveGuard application itself needs to be downgraded.

    Miscellaneous Notes and Issues


    Hyper-V


    Windows 8 Pro and Enterprise editions include Microsoft's Hyper-V hypervisor, which replaces the older Virtual PC. However, to use Hyper-V in Windows 8, you need a system that's capable of second-level address translation (SLAT). Unfortunately, Core 2 CPUs don't support this, therefore Hyper-V cannot be enabled on the 6930p. The only workaround (short of switching to another virtualisation platform like VMWare or VirtualBox) is to use Windows Server 2012 (or 2012 R2) instead, which doesn't require SLAT for Hyper-V. See Win2012Workstation.com for a guide to converting WS2012 into a usable workstation, but note that you'll miss out on a number of Windows 8.1 features, including MS account and Skydrive integration.

    OpenGL


    While official Intel drivers for the GMA 4500MHD are available through Windows Update, they only include rudimentary OpenGL support (specifically, 1.1 and partial 1.2), even though the hardware itself is capable of OpenGL 2.1. This can pose a problem with some games and graphics programs. Personally I ran into issues with SpaceChem (visual glitches), Osmos (ran like a slideshow) and Papers, Please (refused to run at all). Since OpenGL, regrettably, cannot simply be downloaded like DirectX, but has to be included in the graphics drivers, the only solution is to use inf-modded Windows 7 drivers from Intel. A brief guide to install those follows:


    1. Download the latest Windows 7 graphics drivers from Intel. As of the writing of this, that would be version 8.15.10.2869, dated 2012-10-04. Download link: https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=22166&lang=eng
      If you need older (or 32-bit) drivers, go to Intel Download Center → Active Products → Graphics → Laptop graphics drivers → Mobile Intel 4 Series Express Chipset Family

    2. Extract the ZIP file you downloaded to a folder of your choice, navigate to that location, open the Graphics subfolder, and finally open kit49684.inf in Notepad or other text editor. Note that the actual filename can differ depending on the driver version you downloaded, but be sure it has an .inf extension.

    3. Scroll down until you see the following:
      Code:
      [Manufacturer]
      %Intel%   = IntelGfx, NTamd64.5.1, NTamd64.6.0, NTamd64.6.2 
      
      [IntelGfx.NTamd64.5.1]
      ; no install on XP
      
      [IntelGfx.NTamd64.6.2]
      ; no install on Win8
      
      [IntelGfx.NTamd64.6.0]
      %iCNTG0% = iCNT0, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2A42
      %iCNTG1% = iCNT1, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2A43
      %iEGLG0% = iEGL0, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E02
      %iEGLG1% = iEGL1, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E03
      %iEGLQ4G0%  = iEGL0, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E12
      %iEGLQ4G1%  = iEGL1, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E13
      %iEGLG4G0%  = iEGL0, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E22
      %iEGLG4G1%  = iEGL1, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E23
      %iEGLGVG0%  = iEGL0, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E32
      %iEGLGVG1%  = iEGL1, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E33
      %iEGLGB0%  = iEGL0, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E42
      %iEGLGB1%  = iEGL1, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E43
      %iEGLGBU0%  = iEGL0, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E92
      %iEGLGBU1%  = iEGL1, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E93
    4. Copy everything from the IntelGfx.NTamd64.6.0 section to the IntelGfx.NTamd64.6.2 section, so it looks like this:
      Code:
      [Manufacturer]
      %Intel%   = IntelGfx, NTamd64.5.1, NTamd64.6.0, NTamd64.6.2 
      
      [IntelGfx.NTamd64.5.1]
      ; no install on XP
      
      [IntelGfx.NTamd64.6.2]
      %iCNTG0% = iCNT0, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2A42
      %iCNTG1% = iCNT1, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2A43
      %iEGLG0% = iEGL0, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E02
      %iEGLG1% = iEGL1, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E03
      %iEGLQ4G0%  = iEGL0, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E12
      %iEGLQ4G1%  = iEGL1, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E13
      %iEGLG4G0%  = iEGL0, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E22
      %iEGLG4G1%  = iEGL1, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E23
      %iEGLGVG0%  = iEGL0, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E32
      %iEGLGVG1%  = iEGL1, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E33
      %iEGLGB0%  = iEGL0, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E42
      %iEGLGB1%  = iEGL1, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E43
      %iEGLGBU0%  = iEGL0, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E92
      %iEGLGBU1%  = iEGL1, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E93
      
      [IntelGfx.NTamd64.6.0]
      %iCNTG0% = iCNT0, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2A42
      %iCNTG1% = iCNT1, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2A43
      %iEGLG0% = iEGL0, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E02
      %iEGLG1% = iEGL1, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E03
      %iEGLQ4G0%  = iEGL0, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E12
      %iEGLQ4G1%  = iEGL1, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E13
      %iEGLG4G0%  = iEGL0, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E22
      %iEGLG4G1%  = iEGL1, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E23
      %iEGLGVG0%  = iEGL0, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E32
      %iEGLGVG1%  = iEGL1, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E33
      %iEGLGB0%  = iEGL0, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E42
      %iEGLGB1%  = iEGL1, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E43
      %iEGLGBU0%  = iEGL0, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E92
      %iEGLGBU1%  = iEGL1, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E93
    5. Save and close Notepad.

    6. Unfortunately, this modification will invalidate the driver's digital signature and Windows will refuse to install it. To get around that, open an elevated Command Prompt and enter the following two commands:
      Code:
      bcdedit -set loadoptions DISABLE_INTEGRITY_CHECKS
      bcdedit -set TESTSIGNING ON
    7. When done, restart your PC. NB! If using BitLocker, either suspend drive encryption, or make sure to have your recovery key at hand.

    8. After restarting, go to the folder where you extracted the driver files and run Setup.exe to install the driver as you would on Windows 7. When you get a dialog warning you that the driver is unsigned, click "Install anyway".

    9. When the installer completes, don't restart yet. Open an elevated command prompt again and enter the following two commands, to undo the changes you made earlier:
      Code:
      bcdedit -set loadoptions ENABLE_INTEGRITY_CHECKS
      bcdedit -set TESTSIGNING OFF
    10. Now restart your PC.

    11. After logging in, verify the driver version in Device Manager. You can also check OpenGL support with OpenGL Extensions Viewer, it should confirm full 2.1 support. Or you can simply try to run whatever game or graphics software you have that required OpenGL, it should work fine now.


    After doing the above, I was able to play the aforementioned three games without any issues. I've yet to notice any adverse effects from using unsigned graphics drivers, but of course your mileage may vary. If you notice any problems or just want to play it safe, use the official Intel drivers from Windows Update.





    Hope this helps someone. Info about devices I haven't been able to test myself (ATI GPU, Broadcom wireless, modem) is welcome.
     
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    Hello,

    I just got one of these and was wondering if I can retrofit it with a webcam. I have the ATI model.
     
  9. jke

    jke Notebook Enthusiast

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    Yes, you'll just need a new bezel, the webcam and a cable + pcb (as pictured below). Or else swap the whole display.


    [​IMG]
     
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    Thanks for that. What would be the best option in your opinion? I'm fine with taking things apart, but would it make more sense to swap the screen completely? Also, can you provide the part numbers? One other question, I seem to only get about an hour and 45 mins of battery, is this normal on the ATI model? If it is, i'll just buy an extended battery, or the battery for the 2nd slot.
     
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