*HP 2510p Owners Lounge*

Hello guys,

This is my first post here so be patient. I'm the proud owner of a 2510p, bought very cheap off ebay.
I'd like to do the following, but first I wanted to ask the community and check not to do some mistakes:

1. change the ZIF drive with a microSATA Samsung Thin 128 GB SSD 3.3 V (~3mm thick, no metallic case---those are 5mm thick)
+ this half slim SATA 3.3V to ZIF adapter from eBay (~5mm thick):
New converter Adapter 1.8" Half Slim SATA II 22PIN SSD 3.3V into CE/ZIF PATA 40P | eBay

The same SATA to ZIF adapter found also here, to see some extra photos:
Half Slim SATA II 22PIN SSD 3.3V SSD to 1.8" CE/ZIF PATA 40PIN converter board | eBay

I will, of course, need a micro SATA to SATA adapter cable, connecting the SSD with the adapter (3.3V will run through it):
22 Pin SATA Male assembly to Micro SATA 16 Pin Female | eBay

The adapter would stay on top of the SSD (the sum of their heights is OK, ~8mm) and I can just hope that the micro SATA cable connected on the SSD will not extend too much towards the mobo's ZIF connector... (really need your opinion on this one !!!)
This "SSD+adapter+cable" combo would be the master drive.

2. buy a 9.5 mm SATA to PATA caddy from eBay, like this one (it is probably a Sunplus chipset, not Marvell. I'm not 100% though):
Optical Bay 2nd SATA HDD Hard Drive Caddy Module Tray Adapter PATA IDE 9.5mm | eBay

and slave mod it (slave mod for Sunplus =??). Then put a 9.5mm SATA drive inside as slave.

What do you guys think ? Are these 2 steps doable ?

Thanks and best regards !

PS: Just for your info, the SATA-ZIF adapter uses a JMicron JM20330 chip (SATA 1.5 Gbps). The SATA-PATA caddy seems to use the Sunplus chipset and not the Marvell 88SA8040 chipset (both are SATA 1.5 Gb/s to PATA 133 bridges).
It would be interesting to find a caddy with the Marvell 88SA8052 bridge (SATA 3 Gb/s to PATA 133).

I would like to point out that, in order to have better stability (and no more UDMA CRC errors), you might have to jumper/set via software any SATA HDD/SSD connected to these SATA-PATA adapters (be it Sunplus, JMicron or Marvell). For example, a Samsung 2.5" SATA HDD for the caddy can be forced to SATA 1.5 Gbps via the ESTool software from Samsung. For Hitachi, use FTool. Seagate drives can be jumpered. No solution for WD, however. It will "auto-negotiate", if it will at all... Same goes for SSDs -> most don't have any jumper at all or software to set the SATA mode.

 

In my opinion, my U7600 heats up a lot and my old nc2400 has the same "feature". Without laptop pillow, they are not comfortable to use. An L7x00 can not be much worse.

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1. I don't know.

2. I would buy an other caddy from ebay:

NEW SATA 2nd HDD caddy for 9.5mm ACER BENQ HP DELL ASUS | eBay

I use a caddy with the same look and the connectors are correct according to the images.

Some reading:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-...87-hp-2510p-owners-lounge-32.html#post5595329
http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-...87-hp-2510p-owners-lounge-32.html#post5610170
http://forum.notebookreview.com/sol...-1-8-zif-pata-ssds-available.html#post6861746

 

Thanks for your reply.
What chipset is in this caddy you have ?

I just opened another caddy I had in my other Toshiba A200 laptop (PATA to SATA 12.7mm from ebay, the cheapest) and it's a Sunplus SPIF223A-HL022 chipset, I took pictures, here they are:
http://imageshack.us/a/img228/3084/p1040535s.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img819/582/p1040538t.jpg

Notice the SATA1 written near the connector (meaning SATA I = 1.5 Gbps). The Sunplus chip is a SATA 1.5 Gbps to ATA133.
The PCB does NOT have a HDD activity LED, but one can be added I think, as you can see at the right edge of the first photo.
It works fairly well with a 2.5" 640 Samsung HDD (HM641JI).

 

I don't know and I will not take apart now, but my caddy has HDD activity LED, if it helps.

If you have caddy already and the connectors fit then you can try those before buying from ebay.

 

Here are some benchmarks with the Sunplus caddy PATA-SATA 12.7mm with a Samsung M8 HN-M101MBB 1TB 2.5" drive:

HDTune (native ICH8M SATA)
http://imageshack.us/a/img850/4185/benchmarkesata.png
HDTune (Sunplus caddy)
http://imageshack.us/a/img19/6263/benchmarkcaddy.png

Anvil RC3 (native ICH8M SATA)
http://imageshack.us/a/img204/1452/anvilog.png
Anvil RC3 (Sunplus caddy)
http://imageshack.us/a/img801/8756/anvilcaddy.png

The sequential reads/writes are limited to about 85/64 MB/s in my case (in HDTune and when copying large files from and to).

Here's a write benchmark in HDTune for a Samsung M7E HM641JI 640 GB 2.5" drive in the caddy (see the write cap @ 64 MB/s):
http://imageshack.us/a/img829/9963/benchmarkhm641jiwriteca.png

 

Wow, something is wrong with my system, I get only max. 43-47 MB/sec read speed in my caddy. :-| I should look into my Linux system.

Edit: Ok, my hard disk is so slow as it is. I ordered a faster...

 

nando4, can you please check the Sunplus chipset for my ebay caddy ?
http://imageshack.us/a/img819/582/p1040538t.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img228/3084/p1040535s.jpg

I would like to slave mod this Sunplus caddy. I've seen you did it for the Marvell chipset, connecting pin 33 with a 3.3 V source. If you check the Sunplus SPIF223A Datasheet here:
http://monitor.espec.ws//files/spif223a_182.pdf
in Chapter 7.3 you will see the 2 Jumpers for Master/Slave/Cable Select. It's about pins 33 and 35.

Would you be able to pinpoint the Slave or CS Mod possibilities, please ?

Thanks !

 

Kryptex, have you seen the other msata to zif adapter available?
mini pci-e Msata SSD to 40pin ZIF adapter card as tohiba or hitachi zif hdd | eBay

I have been looking into using a msata ssd and one of those adapters, but I haven't seen anybody using it on the 2510p... so I am a little hesitant as I want to know if it will work.

What do you think?

 

If it's really *only* 3.8 mm thick, then it should work beautifully ! We need to find an mSATA to microSATA cable. I have to look a bit into mini pci-e/msata a bit more seriously.

Good find !