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*HP 2510p Owners Lounge*

Discussion in 'HP Business Class Notebooks' started by master blaster, Feb 13, 2009.

  1. master blaster

    master blaster Newbie

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    Release Date: June 27, 2007 (pre-GFC build quality)

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    4 - docking station ports | 5 - the slow ZIF PATA harddisk in the 1.8" drive bay

    There are a few negatives: only has 2 USB ports, a mono speaker, and no webcam (unless mod one in), no HDMI, only 1 RAM slot (which means a pricier 4GB upgrade with x3100 graphics working) 20-30% slower than a dual-channel setup and the bus bottleneck with 4200rpm 1.8" PATA harddisk.

    differencesDifferences Between 2510P, 2530P, 2540P & 2560P

    Item/Owner's Lounge2510P2530P2540P2560P
    unwhitelisted biosyesyesnono
    PLL/overclockingICS9LPRS355/yesICS9LPRS397/yesnono
    LED-backlit LCD 12.1" 1280x80012.1" 1280x80012.1" 1280x80012.5" 1366x768
    primary/optical bay 1.8" ZIF/pata1.8" usata/sata1.8" usata/sata2.5" sata/sata
    CPU/chipset65nm Merom/965GM45nm Penryn/GS4532nm Arrandale/QM5732nm Sandy Bridge/QM67
    FSB MhzU7x00/L7700 533/800U9x00/L9x00 800/106610661333
    Graphicsx31004500MHDIntel HDHD3000
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    no of RAM slotssingle channel (1)dual channel (2)dual channel (2)dual channel (2)
    RAMDDR2-667DDR2-800DDR3-1333@1066DDR3-1333
    Wifi4965AGN5100AGN6200AGN6205AGN
    expansion slotPCMCIA+mPCIeexpresscard 1.0+mPCIeexpresscard 1.0+mPCIeexpresscard 2.0+mPCIe
    WWAN-readyyesyesyesyes
    webcam and nightlightno, consider modyes - on some modelsyesyes
    Displayport/HDMInono, consider DIY eGPUyes/noyes/no
    USB ports (+ODD caddy)22+13+13
    native e-satanononoyes
    keyboardtraditionaltraditionalsemi-chicletisland
    Bootable SD card?noyesyesyes
    Weight with 6-cell+ODD1.63kgs/3.59lbs1.70kgs/3.75lbs1.81kgs/3.99lbs1.92/4.24lbs
    2510P/2530P/2540P HP Accessory List shows shareable accessories between 25xxP units.
     
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  2. Jay2k1

    Jay2k1 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi,

    I own a 2510p as well and the very limiting factor indeed seems to be the 4200rpm PATA hard drive.

    In my 2510p, there's an 80GB model inside (Toshiba MK8009GAH) and right now I'm asking myself what to do. The usual price comparison sites tell me that, as a simple replacement, there's a 100GB and a 120GB model of that hard drive series available (MK1011GAH and MK1214GAH), both with 8MB cache and 4200rpm.
    Assuming PATA is the only way to go, one could consider buying the Mtron Mobi MSD 3000 32GB, 1.8", ZIF (MSD-PATA3018-032). It costs 170 EUR here in Germany - that's pretty OK imo - but tbh, 32GB isn't really much.
    So I am very very interested in this thread. I have also seen the unused connector and am wondering what it might be for.

    Also, did you notice the letters 'SSD' marked on the little metal clamp that is used to hold the hard disk in place? Any idea why they put it there? Waking hope?

    Another interesting thing: According to the HP partsurfer, there is a 120GB hard drive w/ 5400 rpm available (part number 467847-001). I'd go for that too, unfortunately I couldn't find out what HDD model it is yet.

    Edit: I just found out that Toshiba will start shipping the MK2431GAH drive (1.8", 4200rpm, 240GB (!)) on March 1st, 2009. Now, as seek time remains 15ms, I'm curious nevertheless for benchmarks, because with two platters à 120GB, it will have a record breaking data density which should increase at least sequential read and write performance.

    Edit2: Oh, and I wonder what happened to this one o_O
     
  3. Jay2k1

    Jay2k1 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Good god, dude. Stop talking about soldering on the mobo, it makes my head hurt :D

    I would never go that far. I think the possibilities are as follows:
    1. some manufacturer makes a decent 1.8" ZIF hdd
    2. we go for the 32GB MTRON ssd
    3. the unused port turns out to be some kind of sata connector which somehow can be enabled and used

    I just flashed my BIOS to the newest version last evening, I was three versions behind before, and neither of the two BIOS versions had any options related to SATA. The only HDD related option I recall is the translation logic (bit-shift vs. LBA).

    At this time, I am only one click away from buying the 32GB MTRON SSD :S
    The sad thing is, there was a press release from MTRON saying they would release a 64GB version of their 1.8" ZIF SSD, but apparently they never did. Makes me :mad: :(
     
  4. Jay2k1

    Jay2k1 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Man, I'd love being able to go for that one, that's for sure.

    Say, could you provide hi-res photos of the system board of the 2510p? So we could see what kind of ricoh controller chip there is.
     
  5. Jay2k1

    Jay2k1 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Well, at least when it comes to soldering on the mainboard you'll lose the warranty anyway, so I thought it wouldn't be a big deal for you ;)

    I've seen the device ID in the device manager as well, yeah, but maybe maybe there is some pcmcia driver for the ricoh controller other than the default xp driver.
    Unfortunately I don't own such a cardbus SATA adapter card, otherwise I'd have tested with some linux distributions as well to make sure it's not the windows driver that causes the slow data rates.

    Well, sadness. I've read this, so I think we can forget about using the cardbus slot, which narrows it down to either stick to the existing PATA connector or figuring out what the unused connector is good for, and how to enable it.
    EDIT: Forget this, read page 4 of this thread!
     
  6. Jay2k1

    Jay2k1 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I think I won't buy such a controller card, because, as you correctly pointed out, we can see enough of the ricoh chip in the HP services media library picture to know it's a R5C847.
     
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    Jay2k1 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Point taken. I found 6 or 7 different adapters still available here, most of whats on the marked nowadays is ExpressCard. Unfortunately, none of the cardbus adapters are the short "hide-inside" ones like what you linked. That won't affect the testing of course, but assuming I'm successful it won't be of much help. I don't want to have some stuff sticking out of the notebook, the battery that stands out of the back annoys me enough...

    Besides I often copy photos from my compact flash card to the notebook using a 32-bit cardbus CF adapter, so I wouldn't want the slot to be blocked by the system disk. I think I'll get myself an MTRON 32GB SSD now.
     
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    The 120GB 5400rpm zif drive is the Samsung HS122JC. I picked a couple of these off eBay a few months ago for my 2510p's.
     
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    Could you please be so kind to do a benchmark using HD Tune or HDTach? I'd appreciate it very much.

    Edit: Although I guess it wouldn't matter much because I can't seem to get my hands on one of those, neither in any shops nor at eBay :(
     
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    Perhaps someone here wants to know.
    The probably biggest MTRON reseller here in Germany says:
    I also mailed with Toshiba concerning the MK2431GAH hard disk drive, which has 1.8" LIF 4.200rpm and 240GB on only 2 platters. I asked why it doesn't seem to be available in all the web shops (the 120GB version was all I could get). Toshiba Supervisor Technical Support, Danny Stahlfeld, says:
    I did order the 32GB version of the MTRON 1.8" SSD now, atm the retailer is awaiting the shipping from Mtron, Korea, and I might hold it in my hands in the first days in March.
    I'm curious though if there will be any useful stuff released on the CeBIT fair (3-8 March) (I'll be there most probably).
     
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