How well AMD Trinity A6-4400M, A10-4600M and Llano A8-3550MX APU perform in real world? Performance and Power Consumption Tests!

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  1. Atom Ant

    Atom Ant Hello, here I go again

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    After many years with Intel, last year I switched to AMD Llano A8-3550MX APU powered laptop and observed great difference due to Strong (Radeon 6620G) integrated graphics. AMD Fusion APUs are delivering strong enough CPU cores with a discrete level graphics in one die. Means it perform well with both games and business applications, while heat and power consumption numbers are minimal.
    AMD says the new Trinity APU features a much improved design over the previous generation of Llano APUs. In this contest I’m going to find out how much better is the new improved design and what capable for!


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    Is this little thing a powerhouse?


    Test Systems:

    HP Pavilion G6-2123US (Trinity)
    -AMD A6-4400M Twin Core 2.7GHz@Turbo with Integrated Radeon 7520G
    -AMD A10-4600M Quad Core 2.3GHz@Turbo with integrated Radeon 7660G
    -G. Skill 2X4GB DDR3 1600MHz CL9 1.5V
    -Seagate 500GB 7200RPM HDD
    -Windows 8 X64
    -AMD Catalyst 12.8 driver

    Dell Vostro 3555 (Llano)
    -AMD A8-3550MX Quad Core 2.0GHz@2.4GHz with integrated Radeon 6620G
    -G. Skill 2X4GB DDR3 1600MHz CL9 1.5V
    -Seagate 500GB 7200RPM HDD
    -Windows 8 X64
    -AMD Catalyst 12.8 driver


    AMD Fusion laptops are really sensitive for Dual Channel and Memory Speed setups, therefore to be able measure accurately performance difference, I’ve used both systems with same memory sticks.

    The new AMD A6-4400M and A10-4600M with Turbo Core 3.0 technology (automatically overclocks CPU and GPU cores according to temperature, 35W TDP limit and loading situations) to ensure bring its best all the time. Fortunately Trinity APUs are quite well voltage optimized too, because PSCheck with beta Piledriver support isn’t too good for undervolting purposes. Meanwhile you are good to use your machine without tweak programs.
    While the old A8-3550MX is an un-optimized APU, using insane high voltages in each P-State and cannot auto-overclock neither CPU nor GPU cores. Therefore need manual optimization by Fusiontweaker or K10Stat. I’ve found 2.4GHz near 1.15V for the highest and 0.8GHz with 0.725V for the lowest best-effective operation. Unfortunately there is no option to overclock the GPU core.


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    A6-4400M top speed is 3200MHz.


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    A10-4600M top speed is 3200MHz with two Cores and 2700MHz with four Cores.


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    A8-3550MX factory default was 2000MHz near 1.125V and 800MHz near 0.938V. After Undervolting the operation is sensibly cooler.


    Tests:

    I’m going to avoid synthetic CPU benchmark programs, therefore my tests based on real world situations; encoding video with the commonly used Handbrake program, compressing folders, files with Winzip 16.5 and play few popular games. To bring out the maximum of these APUs, games will run near the highest possible details as long as frame rates are sufficiently enough to play.


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    45 minutes long DVD movie encoding to MKV file. Handbrake use all available CPU cores, therefore not surprising quad Core APUs are much faster than twin core A6. No OpenCL acceleration yet!


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    Compressing (Futuremark folder; inside 3Dmark11, 3Dmark2003 and 3Dmark2001SE) 935MB to 434MB. Winzip also use all available CPU cores. To see OpenCL acceleration test scroll down to the second post!


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    Alien vs. Predator is one of the first titles with DX11 support, which still holds the APUs very well.


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    A10-4600M runs Battlefield 3 smoothly near advanced details. Going Hunting scene tested with Fraps.


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    The popular Call of Duty series with maxed out graphics runs perfectly on all 3 APUs. Escape Vorkuta episode tested with Fraps.


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    Average FPS of 18 Leaders in Civilization V. To run this test, run the application with the command line option “-LeaderBenchmark“


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    GTA 4 runs fine near decent quality on A8-3550MX and A10-4600M.


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    Need for Speed Run; What a Rush track measured with Fraps. All details set to Ultra, expect shadow.


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    No problem playing The Walking Dead Game on these APUs, A10-4600M scores close to the maximum 60FPS. Episode 1, Chapter 8; Safe... Mostly intro part benchmarked.


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    3DMark03 for what difference you can expect in older games


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    3Dmark11 Benchmark for last; show similar difference as the DX11 games above.


    Power Consumption:

    Very important factor for laptop users, lower means longer battery time, less heat, less fan noise.
    Power usage measured from connector, which means the whole laptop consumption. I’ve measured the first minute in each situation and determined the average:

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    Note I’ve not used SSD and low-voltage DDR3 Memory, but the numbers are already quite low!


    Efficiency:

    Trinity with new improved design offer more performance for less power usage. Let’s see how charming the performance/Watt figures:

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    The new improved design average 18% faster per Watt. Note A8-3550MX was undervolted in each P-State, perhaps lessened the difference.


    Conclusion:

    I found the new Trinity very satisfying experience; it definitely gives new life for laptops without discrete graphics. Considering we can play demanding games in High or Maxed out graphics near 1366X768 screen resolution between 37-53W power consumption for overall system, A10-4600M is unbeatable and much recommended! The included CPU situation tests are showing adequate performance too, even if not quite as fast as the old overclocked A8-3550MX. The slower A6-4400M certainly strong enough to outperform 3rd gen Intel Ivy Bridge APUs in gaming, but far not as quick running CPU intensive programs. If your daily routine aren’t more serious than browsing on Internet, play HD video, word, excel, light gaming, etc., than A6-4400M is perfectly enough too.
    The point of criticism is some manufacturers are not willing to build laptops for AMD chips and if so only in 15”-17” category where Intel laptops wildly available with higher-class NVidia discrete GPUs. Trinity APUs could be killer in thin and 12”- 14” laptops. Unfortunately these laptops are not exist or very rare, especially a fully-featured good quality one what many people waiting for! For more information visit The Ultimate AMD Trinity Notebook List.
     
  2. Atom Ant

    Atom Ant Hello, here I go again

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    Winzip 16.5 OpenCL acceleration test;

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    A10-4600M still cannot catch the good old overclocked A8-3550MX


    Some more interesting tests;
    12.8 Vs. 12.9 AMD Catalyst Driver Performance Review with A10-4600M:

    Alien Vs. Predator:............28,3..........28,1
    Battlefield 3:....................28,8.........
    Call of Duty 7 Black Ops:....50,7.........49,4
    Civilization 5:....................44,9.........
    GTA 4:.............................29,9..........29,1
    Need For Speed: The Run:...23,2.........
    The Walking Dead Game:....52,8.........
    3DMark03:........................20628.......20442
    3DMark11:........................1332.........1338
     
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    Atom Ant Hello, here I go again

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    Llano Vs. Trinity Cache and Memory Performance Benchmark by AIDA64:


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    Windows 8 Experience Index (WEI Scores):

    A8-3550MX:
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    A10-4600M:
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    Really cool benchmarking. It would be nice to have a comparison of those real world tests with a i3 and i5 Sandy Bridge CPU though.
     
  5. Atom Ant

    Atom Ant Hello, here I go again

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    I do not have Sandy Bridge any more, but I've marked all the settings in every title so people could re-done very similar scenarios. Maybe Handbrake need further explanation, if need for someone I have the details too...
     
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    I have both an i7-3610QM and and i5-3360m Ivy Bridge that I can run comparisons with using the HD 4000 in my Clevo W110ER 11.6" notebook if you'd like?

    The A8 Llano seems to have the CPU multithreaded advantage, but the Trinity is definitely the better gaming CPU.
     
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    kanuk Notebook Deity

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    Interesting, but I think this is posted in the wrong section.
     
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    Atom Ant Hello, here I go again

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    Yeah, Trinity is exactly the opposite of Llano; weaker CPU, stronger GPU.
    We all know quad core i7 gona be much faster for CPU tasks, but looking forward to see i5-3360m comparison. For WinRar you can download the things from the web, for Handbrake we should use a video file which available for both of us.

    I have wanted to post into here --> Notebook News, Reviews
    but unfortunately I'm not allowed to open thread there...:cool:

    My concern is which laptop to keep now? Because I love my Dell Vostro 3555; Noiseless, matte screen with Backlit keyboard and Bluetooth. The HP Pavilion G6 do not have these advantages, but have A10 Trinity inside and I want that very much:rolleyes:.
     
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    abaddon4180 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Pretty impressive that the 7520g can keep up with the 6620g and that power consumption is awesome. I am planning to upgrade to Trinity soon, preferably when I see an A8-4500m for <$450 or A10-4600m for <$500, and I am glad that I will see a noticeable improvement in gaming and power consumption over my A6-3420m
     
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    Good review. +rep. I thought Trinity also had trouble reaching turbo speeds like Llano did?
     
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