How to: Replace your broken (8600M GT) graphics card (in the [I]FL90)

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  1. Dr.Colossos

    Dr.Colossos Notebook Evangelist

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    I doubt you get the 3670 to work, unless you invest much time in reading, and soldering.

    Another option: Sell the parts, one by one, and get a new machine. The FL90 as a whole sells used at around 100€ I'd say. In parts, you might get 150€.

    Good luck
     
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    Hmm I have add suport for ati 4650 (ATI Radeon Mobility HD4650 M96 DDR3 1G - romles! - ATI 216-0729042 KSKAE - Codename: M96 from SATELLITE L505-12Q - hynix memory - closer look here -http://allegro.pl/ati-radeon-mobility-hd4650-mxm-ii-1gb-ddr3-i6141775193.html) I have downloaded this bios - http://support1.toshiba-tro.de/tedd-files2/0/bios-20100629135948.zip extract ATI M96 rom file, replace G86 rom (Geforce 8600), in this bios - http://compal.net.pl/download/fl90/fl90misc/compal118.rar
    so the final bios look like this: - http://www.filedropper.com/jfl92118

    but it's not working. My laptop doesn't start from USB and don't load the bios OR my new graphic card is broken too OR bios is simply wrong. Can somebody with working 4650 1GB DDR3 in compal FL90 or experienced in laptop rebranding, post BIOS here? Thanks.
     
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  3. Dr.Colossos

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    Puhhh, there are so many steps where something could have gone wrong, basically impossible to help you there.

    Do you still have the old card (8600M GT). You could try to quick fix it with the "oven trick", and see if you get it working with that again (and the original BIOS).

    Maybe something else was broken in the first place ...
     
  4. AlbertoCastillo2001

    AlbertoCastillo2001 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I think my 8600M died today. The screen shutdown and I don't see anything, however everytime I start the computer it seems to be working.
    I tried to connect it to an external monitor but I don't see anything. Is the card dead?

    Thanks
     
  5. Dr.Colossos

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    Yes, 99% sure your gfx card is dead.

    With such an "old" laptop, I doubt it's worth it to repair. ATI 3400/3450/3470 is cheapest replacement, check ebay for that. ATI 34XX is not suited for games, just 2D and simple gaming, eg. online games.

    Everything else, see post #1 in this thread.

    Good luck.
     
  6. AlbertoCastillo2001

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    Isn't 4570 cheaper apparently?
    Is that one better?
    Does 4570 need any heat sink modding?

    Thanks

    Is it possible to decompile or modify the BIOS to get the vbios out another card working?
    Otherwise, is there any decent (superior than 8600M) option which is kind of cheap? maybe getting from alibaba or aliexpress which has WIndows 10 drivers (I assume past drivers can be used as well, but that works reasonably well)

    Thanks
     
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    Maybe, didn't check prices for years.

    Yes, 4570 is better.

    No, should not be needed.

    Perhaps, yes, but I have no clue how.

    ATI 3650/4570 are on par with 8600M GT ... but this laptop is now 10 years old. So on-par is a real relative term.

    Cheerio
     
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    Hi guys,

    New to this site but i already enjoy its content. Let me share with you my story.

    I own a Compal FL92 mobo laptop with 8600M 512MB DDR3 and T9500 CPU. I recently opened it up for CPU and GPU re-pasting after 8 years of absolutely impeccable heavy use (gaming etc). I have never had ANY issue with this laptop (bought from pcspecialist in the UK).

    I put it back together and apart from the keyboard which i misconnected and therefore was not working, i booted into Windows successfully. The problem i had was 1 damn screw from the back cover (i.e. under the laptop) which did not go all the way in and therefore i could not screw in. It was misaligned with the mobo and couldn't go all the way in. I was frustrated after spending 1 whole day with the whole re-pasting business and i admit i was a bit cruel with the mobo trying to forcefully push the damn screw all the way in (unsuccessfully).

    I then open up the laptop, try to take it apart and re-assemble it to align the mobo and all of its holes with the screws. After doing that i tried turning on my laptop but i did not get anything back. No lights, no power, no nothing.

    The screw and hence mobo hole i forced is the one next to the CPU (to the left if someone knows the Compal FL90-92 model layout), so i am worrying i did something to the damn mobo or possibly affected either GPU or CPU (as the GPU is right above the mobo hole as well).

    At this point, attempting to find the culprit (mobo, CPU, GPU) i am thinking on buying a new graphics card and replacing the 8600M with something more powerful but that could replace it worthily. My gaming is only for strategy 3d games (so not that demanding, though the latest strategy titles e.g. Stellaris or EU 4 are a bit slow and the 3D performance could be better).

    Anyway, could someone point me to a model that reliably works well with the Compal FL92 mobo and does not require heatsink or BIOS modding? I would like to buy the best possible graphics card given the above restrictions.

    Also if someone knows how to revive my system or if he/she has any tips wrt what might be going on and what to check first in order to get the laptop working again, would be much appreciated.

    Thank you all. :)
     
  9. Dr.Colossos

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    I would first dis-assemble the laptop, down to mobo, CPU, GPU, RAM, display, power cable (be sure to remove the battery at all times!).

    Looks like so:

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    Connect power, push power button, see if you have a proper boot process ... at least back-light coming one.

    If not, I would not invest a cent into the laptop - that's 8 years old.

    If you insist, the best fit is an ATI 3650 DDR2 512 MB RAM - no modding etc. required.

    More powerful would be the ATI 4650 DDR2 512MB RAM, but might need modding, as heat sink might not fit, and temps are usually higher than you want if you are not inventive.

    Good luck!
     
  10. AlbertoCastillo2001

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    I have replaced the chip of my 8600M GT card with a chip made in 2011. The card is now working again (apparently all +2009 chips don't seem to have this problem anymore)

    However I am checking the temperatures with some games. What were your temperatures with the 8600M GT card? Mine seems to go as high as 90ºC in games and benchmarks

    new thermal pads were applied to the RAM chips (1mm and 0,5mm) and Arctic MX4 for the NVIDIA chip

    Thanks
     
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