How to keep numeric keypad constantly locked/engaged

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  1. safesite

    safesite Notebook Enthusiast

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    I am on an Acer Aspire V Nitro, running Windows 10 (with latest updates) and am experiencing an issue with the numerical keypad that is extremely tiring.

    The problem is, that every time the laptop goes into idle mode (lock screen) or is being turned off and then on again, the numerical keypad has to be locked/engaged again. This is done by pressing the "NumLock" key on the numerical keypad but due to using the lock screen feature on a regular basis for security, this is becoming a nuisance of higher dimensions.

    Before the Acer I had an Asus laptop and the same happened back then, running Windows 8. When I complained about this in the shop, they employee stated (probably having limited knowledge) that this was "normal". Back then, I found out, that the settings for the numerical keypad to be locked or not locked could be tweaked in the Windows registry by changing that setting from 0 to 1. However, that didn't work back then with the Asus after all and thus, I am turning to this forum for help (I haven't tried the same with the Acer but it's still a Windows-setting and it would surprise me, if the outcome would be different from what it was on the Asus).

    As a side note, I remember that when I still had a desktop computer, running Windows 7, that the numerical keypad could be pressed (the key physically that is) after which the NumberLock would just stay that way. Either on or off, whatever you liked.

    So, the question is basically..., how do I get it the numerical keypad to do the same on my Acer/Windows 10?

    Any input is greatly appreciated and welcome, no matter how big or small.

    Thanks in advance.
     
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    Is there an option in the BIOS that says something to the effect of "Numlock boot state?"

    If so, try setting that to enabled.
     
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    How to enable Num Lock automatically in Windows 10

    No matter what value is set in the computer BIOS, num lock will not be enabled automatically on the logon screen. If you have a number in your password or use a PIN to login to your account, having to press the Num Lock key every time you want to logon is annoying.

    To enable the Num Lock automatically everytime you reboot do the following:

    1) Press the Windows + R key to launch the Run Dialogue Box

    2) Type regedit then press ENTER

    3) Navigate to the following key:

    Code:
    HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT\Control Panel\Keyboard


    4) Edit the value of InitialKeyboardIndicators and set it to a value of 2.
     
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    I have a Nitro myself. There's no BIOS setting and editing the regkeys usually only work for a bit - I think it'll survive a reboot but not sleep mode.

    Eventually I figured out that the problem is caused by the Acer utilities - Launch Control IIRC. If you can live without them, just uninstall it. Never bothered installing any of the utils on my latest reinstall and the only time my numpad has shut off is when I miss the backspace key and accidentially hit the numlock instead
     
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    Thanks for your reply. I am not aware of that as I usually never had to fool around with the BIOS. As far as I remember, this Acer laptop uses UEFI and doesn't have a BIOS. But on the other hand, there is nothing that suggests it wouldn't be available in UEFI as well.

    I'll try to have a look if anything else fails.

    Thanks again.

    Thanks also here for your input.

    This is what I was talking about in my initial post. I used this on my ASUS ealier but it didn't work. I could try again but there is just one minor issue with that.

    The InitialKeyboardIndicators is set to eight random numbers, not 1 or 2. I am not sure if you are maybe thinking about the "Standard" key instead of which is right above the InitialKeyboardIndicators as that one just states (value is not defined).

    Did you mean that one instead?

    Hi and thanks to you, too!

    Now this sounds interesting! When you say "Acer utilities - Launch Control IIRC" is that only a part of the Acer utilities that come preinstalled with the laptop?

    I am asking this as I am using something called "Acer Care Center" which is needed in order to keep the firmware for drivers such as touchpad, chipset, audio etc. up-to-date, used to clean disk, for recovery management, control of battery, WLAN/LAN status and so on and so forth. But I have never heard or seen the one you mentioned here before.

    Looking forward to your reply.
     
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    I know it's only a single digit number in this case the value of 2 in this worked for me
     
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    Token CDN Notebook Consultant

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    Launch Control is/was a service part of Care Centre - at least I think that's how it worked. Had a quick look at Acer's site and there are 2 utilities available: care centre and power management. The Care Centre is pretty much useless for my needs (my Nitro is the 592g and hasn't seen a meaningful driver update in a year). Windows internal power management works well enough that I don't need a 3rd party util for the same reason.
    Both the utils can be downloaded from the Acer site, so there is no harm in uninstalling them to see if it works for you. Honestly the only thing I'm possibly missing is the fan cleaning function - but I've also never heard if/how effective it is to begin with
     
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    Thanks for letting me know. I guess, it's not a huge problem as I can fairly quickly google the details on that setting in the registry. I'll have a look if the other options fail.

    Thanks again though for your time and help. Greatly appreciated.
     
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    I agree to what you said about the lack of recent updates in terms of firmware etc. I am just not keen on losing something that I might need later and cannot get back. I am also thinking of the possibility of unexpected issues when trying to reinstall Acer Care Centre software. I had this type of problems previously and thus, am a bit reluctant to change what works.

    However, I would be willing to give it a try but are you sure, that an uninstall of this software would help fix the issue with the numerical keypad lock that I was mentioning earlier?

    I checked on my local Acer website for that software but wasn't able to find my laptop model in the list. I'll give it a try again with the exact serial-number within the next days.

    Looking forward to your reply.
     
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    When I was troubleshooting un/installed Care Centre a few time. Never had an issue on that front.
    My latest reinstall - using the stock MS iso - never had any of the Acer utilities installed. Like I first mentioned, the only time the number pad switched off was when I accidentally hit NumLock key.
    One thing I should mention though, not having Care Centre may axe some of the Fn keys (Fn+F3 - airplane mode, Fn+F8 - mute, no longer work on my machine). I'll happily live with that miniscule issue just to keep my numpad on. Of course it's up to you to decide, but IIRC I've never had a problem uninstalling/reinstalling Care Centre so I can't see any downside to giving it a try
     
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