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How to install windows on Hybrid Hard drive (seagate momentus XT)

Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by MonPireSire, Sep 14, 2011.

  1. MonPireSire

    MonPireSire Notebook Consultant

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    I want to install windows on this drive.

    Now, I think it is supposed to contain 500gb but when I come to install it, I see there's 465,8 free gb.

    I also don't see the difference between the ssd part of the drive and its regular part. What do I do? Can I install windows on the SSD part?

    Thanks!
     
  2. hockeymass

    hockeymass that one guy

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    There is no "SSD part". There's a flash buffer.
     
  3. MonPireSire

    MonPireSire Notebook Consultant

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    Ok thanks. Now I still cannot install it : it always restart the computer and restart the whole process... I_I

    Edit : NVM, it seems ok now.

    Hell, I ALWAYS have problems -_-
     
  4. ricksaint

    ricksaint Notebook Consultant

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    I just did a clean install on one of those myself. You should install Windows as you would on any other mechanical HD.
    Are you doing a clean install or a recovery?. What laptop do you have?
     
  5. MonPireSire

    MonPireSire Notebook Consultant

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    Just a clean install (my previous hard drive crashed). I installed it and it goes well. Thanks!
     
  6. S.SubZero

    S.SubZero Notebook Deity

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    This is a mathematical misrepresentation of the amount of space on the drive. It's a problem that is as old as hard drives. It's all marketing.
     
  7. anseio

    anseio All ways are my ways.

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    So true.

    MonPireSire - Here's how it works. Manufacturers market drives with 500,000,000,000bytes as 500GB. You know, divide by 1000 three times to get KB, MB, then GB.

    The problem is that operating systems do not see KB as 1000bytes, but as 1024 bytes. So, when you divide 500,000,000,000 by 1024 three times, you get 465GB. This is the true storage space of the drive.

    Actually, you can right click > properties on any file on your hard drive. Windows will give you the file size and it's corresponding amount of bytes. I just opened up a small photo:
    1.08MB
    1,138,688bytes
    Marketing would claim the file to be 1.12MB, not the 1.08 that it mathematically is. Another example is my 750GB Hitachi HDD.
    750,152,314,880 bytes
    698GB of actual space.
     
  8. res0sf9v

    res0sf9v Notebook Enthusiast

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    there is no ssd section of the drive there is just extra memory to speed up the drive
     
  9. anseio

    anseio All ways are my ways.

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    From the Seagate website:
    So, yes, there is a solid state portion of the drive. If it were just increased cache/memory, how would the drive be able to organize the most used data for faster access? Information cannot be left in the cache/memory at shutdown.
     
  10. Femanon

    Femanon Newbie

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    I am having this exact problem and am looking for a solution. I don't see one in this thread, if there is can someone explain more clearly, or if not, can someone please tell me how to fix this error so I can get back to my life? Data recovery and moving harddisks is a headache
     
  11. tijo

    tijo Sacred Blame Super Moderator

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    The drive behaves like a normal hard drive so the problem is either a faulty drive or it is elsewhere.
     
  12. Femanon

    Femanon Newbie

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    How can I narrow down if the SSD portion of the drive is DOA?
     
  13. Pirx

    Pirx Notebook Virtuoso

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    No idea what you are talking about. What error is it you think you are getting? Nobody in this thread has mentioned any errors.
     
  14. ehancock

    ehancock Notebook Consultant

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    It's a regular 7200rpm hard drive with 8gb of solid state memory on board. You cannot isolate the ssd and install to it, specify what data is on it, or access it in any way. Seagate has stated the drive reads what you use most and copies it to the ssd portion for faster access later.

    Just install windows like you normally would and the drive will take care of the rest.
     
  15. tijo

    tijo Sacred Blame Super Moderator

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    Wow, my reading comprehension is failing me this evening. Anyways, seems like I made an assumption that wasn't accurate (that femanon was having problems installing Windows on the drive itself, not that he was trying to install it on the NAND cache). Reading it again, seems like the issue is not an issue and ehancock's reply pretty much says it all and I said as much in the other thread. Anyways, +1 for noticing what I failed to.

    This is also a crosspost which I also didn't notice, again, I guess I'm not very alert tonight.

    @Fermanon, do not crosspost please. You got your answer in both of your threads, but I'm closing one of them.
     

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