how to cool msata?

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  1. pete962

    pete962 Notebook Evangelist

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    The other day I was secure erasing some data on my msata drive and before I realized it's temperature went up to 80C, about 10c above it's supposed max operating temp of 70c (aren't they supposed to throttle when overheating?). Even at idle it's going above 50C, so I need some easy way to cool it off. Since I move laptop around, cooling pad is too cumbersome. I think the place this drive is located doesn't have any airflow, so it's just cooking. There is not much space above it, to put aluminum cooling fins and there is a paper with model number etc glued on top of memory chips to make it even more difficult (I don't want to take it off in case I need to return it). Another idea was to install small fan inside to move the air around, but I'm not sure where to get power supply without soldering or altering the laptop, again just in case I need to return it for warranty or something. Any other ideas from members here?
     
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    tilleroftheearth Wisdom listens quietly...

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    Best bet is to try attaching thermal pads. If they actually touch a metal surface, it would be a bonus.
     
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    pete962 Notebook Evangelist

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    Thanks for suggestion. I was thinking about it and actually picked one at computer store yesterday, but once I opened it, it came out to be very thin thermal pad, the type you put on cpu instead of thermal paste, but I need probably 2-3 mm thick.
     
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    Sheer curiosity on my end: which mSATA drive are we discussing here to begin with?

    Personally, I'd be RMA-ing it after seeing such temps, but it's not my call to make.

    Good luck.
     
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    Does anyone know if the firmware has any considerations for over-temp?
     
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    Yeah I'm with George on this one, send it back.
     
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    The drive is 840 EVO, 256GB. Actually I was secure erasing it to return it, but after erase I changed my mind and decided to keep it after all. I want to have fast msata for OS and bootup, I want to have 1TB HDD for data and want to have DVD drive (the other option was to put HDD in DVD caddy and use SSD as primary and USB 3 for DVD and I have everything already for each setup.) Secure erasing whole drive is probably as much stress as this drive will ever encounter and the question remains: is it a drive or laptop? I came to conclusion that any msata drive will be running hot, unless I do something and I'm not sure what other msata drive I would get instead of this, so that's why I decided to keep it, but I'm still kind of on a fence. Either way I want to cool off internals of this laptop somehow. As a matter of fact I have another laptop which I want to set up as cable DVR and that one runs too hot to my liking as well, so I'm looking for ideas on that as well. I probably will end up putting some extra fans inside and thermal pads for both. Going back to EVO, I tested it, no errors, speed is the same and if it fails, it has 3 yr warranty, so as long as I do regular backups, I should be fine.
     
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    Sounds like you thought it through. You made a good point about the secure erase, it survived the worse it will ever see without incident.
     
  9. tilleroftheearth

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    EVO? Return it while you can. (Wish you had mentioned this before).

    See:
    http://www.overclock.net/t/1512915/...es-benchmarks-needed-to-confirm-affected-ssds

    See:
    http://www.overclock.net/t/1507897/samsung-840-evo-read-speed-drops-on-old-written-data-in-the-drive


    Yes, I've read every single post on those threads. Yes, the problems continue. Even after Samsung's fix last November. Yes, mSATA EVO's are affected. Yes the original TLC 840 Samsung drive is also affected, but is being ignored by Samsung (still). Yes the problem of slow read speeds for old files returns for user after a few weeks or around the 3 month range.

    No, this drive is not worth betting on.


    See:
    http://www.overclock.net/t/1512915/...ed-to-confirm-affected-ssds/400#post_23669608

    26MB/s is 1990's HDD speeds. Or circa 2000 USB 2.0 speeds (barely).

    Not what you want to build a boot drive off of.


    Now, you have the proper information to act on this.

    RMA.
     
  10. ajkula66

    ajkula66 Courage and Consequence

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    +1 and then some right here.
     
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