How do I boot my Samsung Series 7 Ultra from USB DVD drive?

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  1. ship69

    ship69 Notebook Geek

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    Hello

    How do I get my Samsung Series 7 Ultra to boot from an external USB DVD drive?

    I have tried “Boot to device”, but that doesn’t work. The (external) DVD drive does come to life when plugged in making a whirring noise but the PC fails to boot from it.
    It now keeps saying: “All boot options are tried.
    Press F4 to recover with facdtory image using Recovery or any other keys for next boot loop iteration”
    Pressing F4 just makes reboot to the exact same message. Pressing any other key has no effect.

    many thanks

    J
     

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    John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator

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    Tapping F12 a few times immediately after pushing the power button should get you to the one time boot menu. If the optical drive isn't listed (it should include a bootable disc) then try turning off Secure Boot in the BIOS.

    John
     
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    ship69 Notebook Geek

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    Hello
    Thanks yes, I got into Samsung's BIOS everntually using F2, but F12 also has the same effect it seems.

    I am doing a fresh install of Windows 10 from a Windows recovery DVD (that I created on a Windows 7 PC using MediaCreationTool) and the new problem is that Windows can't seem my SSD. I think it needs new drivers for my Samsung mSATA 512GB SSD (which I added in instead of the 128GB one that came with it).

    According to my records it is a:
    "Samsung 512GB mSATA PM841 Series MZMTD512HAGL-00000 SATA III MLC Internal SSD".

    I have tried searching Samsung's various sites and found it to be intensely confusing!

    Many thanks

    J
     
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    John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator

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    Is the SSD listed on the BIOS Info screen? Was your Series 7 originally shipped with Windows 7 or 8.1? Is the SSD new and unformateed or used previously?

    It shouldn't be a matter of Windows 10 needing a special driver for the PM841. It's more likely to be something with the UEFI / MBR / GPT / legacy mode etc settings which I've never fully got to grips with. @Dannemand understands these things much better than I do but, while you are waiting for him to pass by, you could read through the Windows 10 on Samsung notebooks thread.

    John
     
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    ship69 Notebook Geek

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    From memory it was a Window 8 and I upgraded to 8.1 and then Window 10.
    I purchased it in August 2013 in the UK.

    Currently BIOS says:
    SATA Port 1: Not installed.
    AHCI Mode Control is set to Manual
    Set AHCI Mode is set to off
    Secure Boot is off
    OS Mode selection is "UEFI OS"

    With thanks

    J
     
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    How do i upload images on my local PC here?!
     
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    ship69 Notebook Geek

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    Here are some photos of my BIOS
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    Dannemand Decidedly Moderate Super Moderator

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    Hi @ship69,

    Your BIOS settings look correct for a new UEFI installation. Personally I would leave AHCI on Auto, but I doubt that is what's causing this. Worth a try though.

    I wasn't sure if you solved the inability to boot the external DVD. Otherwise three things are the most common reasons that might cause that problem:

    1) Fast BIOS Mode is enabled, which makes the computer skip trying to boot external devices. But yours is already disabled (good).

    2) Your Windows Installation media is not UEFI compatible. This used to be a common problem, particularly with DVDs. Microsoft's old Windows7 USB DVD Tool is NOT able create UEFI compatible DVDs and USB sticks, so if that is what you used, most likely there is your problem. But you said you were using their newer Win10 MediaCreationTool, which I assume must be working now with UEFI. Otherwise Rufus is good.

    3) The NVRAM (used by BIOS and UEFI) has become corrupted, which happens frequently on early Win8 generations of Samsung laptops. The two symptoms of this are (i) inability to boot external devices (or anything at all) and BIOS Boot Priority settings not being respected. And (ii) F-keys not working during boot, so inability to enter BIOS settings with F2.

    The fact that you were able to enter BIOS with F2 indicates that you probably do NOT have this problem. But if you have persistent problems booting external devices (AND Fast BIOS Mode is already disabled AND you know that the boot media matches your OS Mode selection, UEFI or CSM) it may be worth clearing your NVRAM. You do so by downloading the latest BIOS for your model (download P07ABW), extracting its contents using the steps described in @isosunrise's BIOS rollback guide, then running the flashing utility (usually sflash64 or WinFlash) with the /cvar /patch parameters. The procedure is discussed at great length in this guide and that entire thread.

    To do this, however, you need to run some form of Windows. If you are able to boot your original SSD (or HDD for others) that is a good way.

    As for why the computer (BIOS and Windows Setup) will not detect your new SSD, the most common reason is that it is not partitioned correctly for UEFI, as John mentioned. Make sure it is partitioned using GPT (NOT MBR). You can do this from inside Windows Setup by opening a Command Prompt (Shift-F10) and using the DISKPART as follows:

    DISKPART (to start the Disk Partition manager)
    LIST DISK (to show all your disks. Notice which one is your disk)
    SELECT DISK x (replace x with the disk number found above)
    DETAIL DISK (just to verify that you selected the right disk)
    CLEAN (to wipe the disk)
    CONVERT GPT (to convert the disk from MBR to GPT)
    EXIT (to close DISKPART)
    EXIT (to close Command Prompt)

    Obviously this will wipe everything on the disk. Reboot after changing the partition style.

    I am quite rushed today, but let me know if you need more details on any of this.
     
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    Hi Dannemand
    Thanks for the above. To get clear the state of play is that
    A) I have access to an 8 year old PC that is running Windows 7 x64, with Internet access
    B) I managed to download Media Creation Tool (MCT) on this PC and with it I managed to create a Windows 10 disk.
    The first problem is that it may not be Window 10 Pro, but never mind that.
    C) If I reboot my laptop it says "Samsung" but then fails to load windows
    D) If I put the Windows 10 DVD into the external (USB) DVD of my Samsung Laptop (that was until very recently running Windows10), the laptop does see it an attempts to boot. It finds "Windows setup" which asks which language to install etc and then "Install Now" (or "Repair your computer")
    E) If I Choose "Repair your computer" followed by "Troubleshoot" I get a command prompt saying "X:\sources"
    F) If I enter DISKPART and then "LIST DISK", it only shows "Disk 0" which has zero bytes free, so I am assuming that this disk is the DVD drive with the Windows 10 DVD on it.

    i.e. The core problem seems to be that my laptop can't actually see the SSD.

    G) The other problem is that although my Windows 7 x64 PC can see my memory stick, even though I have tried using DISKPART on it, and converted it to GPT, and then rebooted that PC, MCT simply can't recognise that memory stick at all.

    H) UPDATE: Having converted the memory stick to GPT, I now find that Windows 7 can no longer see the memory stick :(

    With thanks

    J

    PS I have tried contacting Samsung support but they say:

    "We do not provide SW support for our OEM drives. Please contact the system manufacturer."

    I replied saying that they are they system manufacture, but the are refusing to reply, which is frankly pretty disgraceful.
     
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    OK I seem to have some sort of windows running on drive called X:
    And D: is whatever is on my DVD drive.
    I tried burning the .exe file that appears when I followed your link "download P07ABW" but it says it is "not compatible with the version of Windows that you are running"

    I discovered a file called "SETUP.EXE" in the root of my X: drive, so I ran it and I got a blue screen saying "Install now", but it says "No signed device drivers were found."

    Conclusion:
    I still need to find some device drivers - for my SSD presumably.
     
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