Help in finding my brother a good laptop!

Discussion in 'What Notebook Should I Buy?' started by HardCoreGamer4Life, Mar 29, 2018.

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Is the 7820HK worth the $400 difference it has over the 7700HQ?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. RampantGorilla

    RampantGorilla Notebook Deity

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    Literally the first result on Youtube:
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  2. Mr. Fox

    Mr. Fox Undefiled BGA-Hating Elitist

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    That stuff is easy-peasy, do it with my eyes closed easy, to people that know how. But, it terrifies the daylights out of some people. People always fear the unfamiliar. They need to get over it and learn how, but having to figure that out on a brand new laptop that runs like crap and overheats like crazy as soon as you turn it on is never fun. That's not even fun for those than know how.
     
  3. camberman3000

    camberman3000 Notebook Consultant

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    I see lots of point and counter-point here with few agreements. Ya wanna know why I bought my machine fully configured from HIDevolution and not from a cheaper alternative?

    1. They are trusted
    2. Sure, I could have gotten drives and ram cheaper aftermarket but guess what, all the parts in it are covered by warranty INCLUDING the upgrades like vapor chamber and de-lidded CPU!
    3. Peace of mind
    4. Clean hands

    I got to enjoy my laptop from the very moment I unpackaged it and WHEN I am ready to upgrade, it will likely be out of warranty and will gladly take my chances...but not before then.
     
  4. Ginerashon

    Ginerashon Notebook Enthusiast

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    @Falkentyne @Mr. Fox @RampantGorilla (Just @ing you guys since you are all in the know it seems :) )

    I hate to hijack this thread, but the comments of repasting come up a lot. With HID most ? of their options are all liquid pasting I think? Doesn't that need to be redone every 6 months? I'm a little nervous about that myself. I've pasted 20 desktop PC CPU's in my life with the old fashioned non liquid, but never done a laptop CPU nor liquid CPU so it's somewhat scary.

    What would someone recommend for this situation? If the liquid lasts for 3 -- 4 years hey! I'm all for it, but if it lasts for 6months to a year, it might not be so good for someone scared to repaste?

    Definitely not trying to cause any drama or anything @Donald@HIDevolution has been nothing but quick in his responses and nice, as he has been to basically everyone. I'm just trying to learn myself :)
     
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  5. Falkentyne

    Falkentyne Notebook Prophet

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    HID is doing the repasting for you, right? In that case, since they do a thorough job, it should not need to be repasted for the lifetime of the laptop. Liquid metal does not degrade. And if there is a problem in the future, just call them up.
     
  6. Ginerashon

    Ginerashon Notebook Enthusiast

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    Ugh. I feel so stupid. I've read in more than a few places that it should be replaced every 6mos to a year. This is fantastic news. Thanks to @Donald@HIDevolution and @Falkentyne
     
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  7. Falkentyne

    Falkentyne Notebook Prophet

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    Traditional thermal paste usually needs to be redone in 6 months to a year, because it dries out or pumps out over time, with repeated thermal stresses at high temps. Most review sites do not test for this because they can't. It's simply not feasible for a site that does thermal paste roundups to wait a year before posting their review :) So it's up to end users to post their results.

    I don't know much about IC diamond, but besides the controversy with the makers over here on NBR a few years ago (massive forum thread), it lasts a very long time. Grizzly Kryonaut is the best performing paste, but it is not thick at all, and requires a perfect heatsink fit with even pressure. Imbalanced pressure will cause the "lower pressure" side to dry out prematurely, causing very high core temp differentials. Kryonaut was designed for desktop processors with IHS surface mounting. Laptops have direct die cooling (on non LGA models), which cause very intense direct heat.

    Coolermaster Gel Maker Nano may be one of the best traditional thermal pastes for laptops with bare dies (BGA chips, etc).

    Liquid Metal will not degrade, but requires a lot more work, and the heatsink has to be properly sanded and flat, with even pressure across the die surface; uneven pressure will cause pump out or more oxidation into the copper, but it does not evaporate like normal pastes. You should also coat the copper heatsink surface (in the shape right above the CPU, not the ENTIRE heatsink) in a 'painted' layer of LM also, as this minimizes the 'copper to liquid metal' oxidation reaction. When this is done, it will remain stable.
    Warped heatsinks will fare worse.

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/after-1-year-of-thermal-grizzly-conductonaut.799343/
     
  8. HardCoreGamer4Life

    HardCoreGamer4Life Notebook Evangelist

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    First of all man, thanks for giving replying and giving your input but I was looking for a GTX 1080 and not a 1070. That was already pretty clear with my original post as the only reason I made this thread is for my brother to see different opinions on which CPU he should buy. The reason for this is that he saw some reviews on youtube that having the 7700HQ is already enough but not for me as I can say from first hand experience that having an unoverclockable CPU would waste the performance of the GTX 1080. Second, I was wrong, I thought the 7700HQ would clock max up to 3.8 but it seems that's not the case and it only goes up to 3.4Ghz. If that's the case then no, the 3.4Ghz is nearly not enough for what he wants to use the laptop for. Third, no offense on Amazon but I'd stick to what I had experienced first hand from HIDevolution man. I have nothing against Amazon but they got a lot of negative feedback from people buying laptops from them. If your a new buyer like my brother as I was like him just a year ago, you wouldn't want to risk your money buying a multi thousand unit from someone that doesn't have a good reputation even though it's cheaper. I'm not trying to be rude or something with my comparison but it's like going for a escort you know has a HIV but cheap then having to go through all the rigorous and painful treatment (LOL) whereas you can go to an expensive one but you know you don't have to experience all those hassle. I don't know if they do stress test your unit but as I've said, I'll stick with what I know. HID has given me everything I've wanted from a laptop when I bought mine from them. Everything that I've upgraded using their service is really worth it since it runs cooler and better. I know I can do all those things by myself but I wouldn't want that and so will my brother with his future unit. Having to go through all those hassle and having the risk of cooking your unit is not fun at all. It's a more than $2700 unit and you'd want to experiment with it even though it's your first time? You may be able to do it with your financial capability in your country, but where I'm from we can't do that as we'll need at least a year to be able to buy another one LOL. HID is really worth every penny my brother will spend since I can vouch first hand for the great service and really good customer support they have. But thanks anyway for your opinions man, I always welcome anything that I can get. :D
     
  9. HardCoreGamer4Life

    HardCoreGamer4Life Notebook Evangelist

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    Nicely put my friend. You already know what I want from a unit bro. :vbthumbsup: Thanks for the feedback, I'll show this to my brother and help him decide which route to go.
     
  10. HardCoreGamer4Life

    HardCoreGamer4Life Notebook Evangelist

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    I thought the 7700HQ can go up to 3.8Ghz Max but it seems I was wrong. It's not even worth it now since it won't run as good as the 7820HK with what my brother want to use it for. Thanks man!
     
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