[HELP]Dead Alienware 17 (2013) by EVGA Percision X GPU Tool[REQUEST]

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  1. capo245

    capo245 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Ok,
    ive dissambled the Laptop, and you were right the cable that has the sdcard reader text printed on it connets the power button to the motherboard and its damaged.
    Good news is that all elecritical components cpu, gpu, ram, wifi seem to be ok.
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    The daugther board on the left is the powerbutton.[​IMG]
    This design is pretty strange, over 4 cables and daughter boards chained toghter.[​IMG]
    my guess would be that this cable is pretty hard to find and expensiv.
    Would be worth it to get that cable and see if the laptop boots again?
    If not i will sell the components and see if i can get at least some money out of that.
     
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    Danishblunt Notebook Virtuoso

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    Couldnt find without board:
    Klick

    Partnumber is YXVW4

    Also its unlikely that something is damaged, as I already asked you to, you confirmed that the mainboard isn't shorted, since the power supply didnt turn the green light off.

    Also the "electrial engineers" at your university very likely broke the cable, so you might not want to send anything to them anymore.
     
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    capo245 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks a lot for your fast answer and help,
    im a noob so i would be pretty much clouless.
    Thanks for the advice, youre right the cable worked the laptop beeped before i gave them the laptop.
    I will try to get the daughter board and the post the results.
     
  4. senso

    senso Notebook Evangelist

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    Its a generic flat flex cable, measure the pitch, number of pins/contacts and you can buy those at Mouser/Digikey/ebay/etc.

    It might be a bit longer, but you can fold those things.

    And yes, that flat flex was pinched or someone left it over a screw hole and forced real hard to pass a screw through it..

    And its its only for the sd-card reader, the laptop should work without it, or Alienwares are more stingy about missing things?

    Powered lots of laptop boards with just cpu and one stick of ram on my bench when doing repair, never found a motherboard that would not boot with missing expansion boards.
     
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    Danishblunt Notebook Virtuoso

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    No, Alienware actually takes the cable meant for an SD reader and slaps it onto the powerbutton daughterboard. I've seen this couple of times. Don't let the label misguide you.
     
  6. senso

    senso Notebook Evangelist

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    It goes indeed to the card reader, but then goes to somewhere else, because there is a much bigger cable going to the card reader and into the mobo, so that cable is for something else, as you said, maybe the power button sub-board.
     
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    Danishblunt Notebook Virtuoso

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    It's AW engineering at its best.

    Huehuehuehehuehue
     
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  8. senso

    senso Notebook Evangelist

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    The 11-13 inch Sony Vaios where way worse, 20 cables and 12 sub-boards inside a tiny chassis, sure can do, sub-boards made of flex pcb's, like the card reader, that would break over time with use, but they packed some nice tech, core2duo laptop with RAID-ed SSD module witih 256GB, sweet, no so sweet the 20 minutes with a tweezer to take it apart.

    Also, isn't that AW model from the Clevo design times?
     
  9. GoHack

    GoHack Notebook Consultant

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    This is getting off the subject here, but if this laptop is so valuable when it comes to your studies, what the hell are you doing screwing around w/it?

    If you can, by some miracle of a chance, get the laptop working, I'd leave it alone and not mess around w/it any further. You should be able to find a replacement keyboard, or cable, on eBay as well. Also too, you may simply be able to use an external keyboard via a USB port on it.

    Finally, don't let engineers touch it ;), but instead, bring it to your campus computer tech's. Most campuses have a place for the maintenance of their campus computers.

    PS - By the way, you may be able to get a student discount through Dell if you need to replace it.

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    Danishblunt Notebook Virtuoso

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    Why? aside from giving it to people who don't know what they're doing, he did an excellent job finding out the problem with our guidance. And considering his situation which is he needs a notebook but has no money, this was the best he could do.
     
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    capo245 Notebook Enthusiast

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    "but if this laptop is so valuable when it comes to your studies, what the hell are you doing screwing around w/it?" it worked oced for over 3 years without any fault, and the risk for the oc itself would be none i thought since i only overclock+undervolt until i reach the stock voltage limit and temps wont increase since the voltage is the same. But yeah youre right it wasnt smart by me.
    "bring it to your campus computer tech's"
    The ingeneers who broke the powercable were the campus computer tech guys.
    I dont really understand what you meant with getting a new keyboard but my english is also pretty bad.
    @Danishblunt
    Youre right i mean 20$ for a new powerbutton and then get somehow past the post(which numerous people archived on the same maschine with the same brick in this forum) and reflash the edid vs 1000$ for a new similar capable laptop is always the better choice even if you have the money.
     
  12. GoHack

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    I was referring to the Electrical Engineers at his school, and who broke the cable.

    Electrical Engineers are not Electronic Engineers, nor are they technicians, who tend to be experienced when it comes to "physically" working on electronics.

    Tech's and engineers are not the same. When you mentioned Electrical Engineers, I understood it as just that.

    Sometimes the cables are soldered to the keyboard, so if the cable is broken, it would be easier to replace the keyboard assembly. If on the other hand, the cable is a separate piece, then of course, try to replace it if you can find a one.

    Good Luck, and once again, if you can get it working again, leave it alone, and quit messing w/it. ;)

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    I'm not criticizing what he did here, and hopefully, he'll get it fixed, thanks to your help here.

    Once again, the people who he gave the laptop to, he referred to as Electrical Engineers, and not Electronic, nor as Tech's. They're not the same.

    If he does get it fixed, he shouldn't mess around w/it anymore since it is so valuable for his education.
     
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    capo245 Notebook Enthusiast

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    The power button arrived but i had an error in my description, the card reader cable is brocken so i need to order that. For people with that trouble its part id is WINXIN E230343 AWM 20624 80C 60V VW-1 Laptop / Computer Ribbon Cable its generic partso you can find it on ebay for cheap. I will post if the laptop beeps again as soon as i have the cable.
    @Danishblunt
    Is this the right part?
    https://www.ebay.de/itm/Alienware-M...436662?hash=item4d73a15cb6:g:ViIAAOSwuLZZ-fUJ ? My has different sticker "VAS00 NBX0001AI00 WINXIN REV10(A00) 13/05/25" but only difference is date as i can tell.
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    Here the one from ebay
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    if this is the right part i will buy it today and in 2 days i have it and can repair the laptop.
    Thanks in advance.
     
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  14. senso

    senso Notebook Evangelist

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    Its the same part number and revision, but the date is not equal, all going well, its only the manufacturing date, if its not TOO expensive, buy it, and swap both cables and the sub board.
     
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