HDD no longer detectable after NVME install

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  1. KY_BULLET

    KY_BULLET Notebook Evangelist

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    I've actually tried bumping it around a little. It was in my drawer for a few months but I had it installed and working fine before I updated my NVME drive yesterday.

    I wonder if windows placed boot files on it the last time I did a clean install and since I changed boot drives, it isn't recognizing it? But even still, it should've shown itself in my bios right?

    I usually unhook any drives in my system to keep windows from doing this but I forgot this time.
     
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    Right, if it's not showing in the BIOS then either there is a circuit failure or a mechanical POST error not allowing it to come online.

    There were some that blew a fuse on the circuit card as well, also the scsi port on motherboards pulled the same trick, probably outside this situation's issues.

    I was coming back to amend my previous post. It's been a while since I worked on these issues, and recalled that I warmed up the drives *before* thwacking them. Usually sitting them on top of always on drives until they heated through and through would be enough.

    And I also recall some took to being whacked on the corners, some on the edge, some face down. And, some needed this every time to start up... so recover the data after you bring it up and then retire it... most would continue to work as long as they were on 24/7...a reboot works, but don't let them cool down.
     
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    @hmscott is right, it should show in the BIOS. Do you have an enclosure you could put the HDD in and try to hook it up via USB to a different computer?

    I highly doubt it would make a difference, but it is sometimes easier to hear the drive from inside an enclosure than from within a computer if there are some issues that generate some kind of noise. Not necessarily the click of death, sometimes it is a bit more subtle.It helped me figure out that it was one of my desktop HDD that went rather than my SSD. Since the computer was booting slow, I assumed it was the OS drive, but it turned out to be a different drive that behaved fine and only had a faint whine. I dropped it in an enclosure for something totally unrelated and that gave me the hint to run a diagnostic on it since it had a subtle whine to it.

    I also ran into cases where Windows on one computer refused to see a drive, but a different computer could recognize it (and also recognize that it was kinda dying). I never checked whether the drive was recognized by the BIOS of said computer though and I am pretty sure it would have been, but at this point, what have you got to lose?
     
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    I actually do not have another computer to try it in but, this is a desktop so I had the data cable and power cable Jerry rigged outside the box with the hdd in hand. I could feel it spinning up.

    I'm thinking something is wrong with my sata controller (fried maybe?) and if that's the case, the mobo is getting rma'd.

    Good thing is that both of my m.2 nvme slots are working so I'm not without a computer at least :p...
     
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    I updated the bios a few days ago and did a CMOS reset afterwards. How would I undo the NVME disabling the ports? It's not my HDD being bad, I went and bought a cheap WD today just to try and its not showing up.
     
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    I might've found out why it's not working. Apparently the boot nvme needs to be in the #1 m.2 slot which is above my GPU. I have it in the slot below my GPU. I will try this out when I get home tonight and report back.
     
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    Luck of the draw I guess...See the picture below. When you have 2 X m.2 Pcie NVME installed, it shuts down SATA data ports #5 and #6, which are the only 2 I tried while trouble shooting. Which means 1-4 sata ports should still be active.

    Go Figure:rolleyes:...So I'm about 95% sure this is my problem.

    Screenshot_20180430-090952_Drive.jpg
     
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    Gee, I hope you didn't "whack" that HDD too hard... :confused::eek::D
     
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    Nah just bumped it a little but just incase it's bad, I have a WD to take its place. On the bright side if all is well, I will have 3.5tb of storage :cool:
     
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    Oh yeah, my board's the same I think, Z170A MSI, I remember reading it in the manual - only just seen your thread though.
     
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