GTX 1060 vs 1070, ASUS vs CLEVO vs others

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  1. Smiche

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    General Questions

    Budget: Roughly 2000eur at most, preferably less
    Size: 15.6 inch
    Country: Finland
    No brand preference
    Tasks: Work(coding with multiple screens, databases, other services), Hobbies - Gaming, Video rendering(no hurries there though), University(sometimes perhaps virtualization or cracking hashes - yes I do study those)
    I'll be taking the laptop to different places and it will sit on a desk for quite a while.
    I'm planning to play plenty of AAA titles, CS:GO, other random not so demanding ones.
    2h of battery life is more than enough, I have power pretty much anywhere I go.
    I'm fine with ordering online.
    No extra money on operating system please :d.

    Screen Specifics

    1080p, I don't want 4k
    Matte screen is pretty much a must

    Build Quality and Design

    I don't care about the style.
    Looking to make the purchase within 2-3 weeks.
    Hopefully the laptop lasts for 3 years and is fairly capable during that time.

    Notebook Components

    NVMe SSD please, can't miss out on that 1500MB/s Read speed.
    No need for optical drives.

    I have been looking at pretty much all european laptop online stores. I found UK to be the most price friendly and it also has the biggest amount of choices.

    The 2 suspects that I fell on:
    ASUS Asus-ROG-GL502VS-DB71-HID3 With 256GB SSD, GTX 1070, 32GB RAM, I7-6700HQ(g-sync display, does it go to ???75Hz???)
    Total price of around 1,890.3€
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Asus-ROG-G...b-bd11-4e9e-8c26-9ca0139074ee&pf_rd_i=desktop
    With GTX 1060: 1429 € (will need to buy NVMe SSD which is around 100€, dunno if the laptop has a place for it though?) so around 1530€

    And the second suspect:
    PCSPECIALIST Octane III (Clevo P751DM2-G chasis)
    Configured with i7-6700K (the desktop one yes), GTX 1070, 8GB RAM, NVMe SSD 256GB, 15.6 g-sync (goes to 75HZ with g-sync)
    Total price of around 2010 €
    https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/notebooks/octaneIII-15/
    With GTX 1060: 1700 €

    So my question is should I aim for GTX 1060 or GTX 1070, Is the clevo built a lot better and can it cool itself a lot better since it's bulkier? I'll be using the pc for at least 8h a day for 3 years. Is the 6700K a nice thing to have for the future? My head hurts from looking and looking, comparing and just trying to figure out what is the best option. I would really appreciate some insight and some help. Also it would be nice if u clear my confusion about the asus - does it do 75Hz, does it have a pciex slot for NVMe ssd? Also other suggestions are appreciated. And I'd be really happy if I can get what I want with 1700 €.

    Thanks!
     
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    Galm "Stand By, We're Analyzing The Situation!"

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    Ok so...

    Pcie ssds do almost nothing in day to day work and gaming. (boot times and game load times are not faster) If you do a lot of video editing you may see a difference (from file transfers not rendering time) but for people on a budget I strongly don't recommend them they're stupid expensive still.

    The Asus supports pcie as does the Clevo. (Maybe also look at the Defiance III from PCSpecialist, pricing is very good and its still better cooled than the Asus despite being thinner). The Clevo is better cooled as well.

    Neither do 75Hz. With like 2 exceptions only 17" laptops have higher than 60Hz displays right now.
     
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    Oh I didn't know that, I had a huge bump in performance moving from HDD to SSD so I made the conclusion NVMe is going to be even a bigger bump, I guess I was wrong. In terms of prices the 256gb sata ssd to nvme price gap is 20-30eur, or at least I saw it so.
    Any ways it's a thing that can be upgraded later down the road.
    Oh I had missed the Defiance III, The way I configured it it's 1729€ (with GTX 1070 which is awesome).
    I asked on the PC Specialist forum and I had a response that Octane III actually goes to 75Hz with G-sync enabled. I suppose the panel is something that can also be upgraded down the road with clevo?
    Do you think that the 6700K is worth it and I'll make use of it? or 6700HQ will be plenty enough and a better choice for me or perhaps 6820HK(I think this one might be a bit hot in combination with 1070?)
    Thanks a lot for the help! I guess the Defiance III might actually be the right option.
     
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    Galm "Stand By, We're Analyzing The Situation!"

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    Octane III can come in a 17" version there. That has a 75Hz display.

    The display can be upgraded potentially.

    And yeah the difference between ssd and hdd is way bigger.

    The Defiance III is a Clevo P650RS, I own one.
     
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    Does it reach high temps? Even on synthetic benchmarks? I'm looking it up online to get more info but a hands on experience is most useful :p
     
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    Galm "Stand By, We're Analyzing The Situation!"

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    My Clevo P650RS caps out at 72C cpu and 77C gpu with max fans. Its lower than normal though because my cpu has liquid ultra thermal compound. (Much better than normal but riskier to apply)

    That's under full synthetic load, with 100% on both cpu and gpu.
    100% on each alone is 69C cpu and 74C gpu.

    When gaming cpu is normally low 60s and gpu low 70s.
     
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    That is just amazing, I think I'm sold on this laptop :)
    Thanks for the help again. It's the definite choice. Someone can close the thread?
     
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    Galm "Stand By, We're Analyzing The Situation!"

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    Er again, add probably like 5C for temps with worse thermal paste. Liquid Ultra is like literally liquid gallium.

    Temps should still be fine though, and undervolting the cpu is easy.
     
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