Google Stadia

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  1. hmscott

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    Some Google Stadia newsbits, check out the Stadia broadband partner bundle with included Stadia Premiere at the end...

    Google Stadia rolled out support for 4K on Chrome
    r/Stadia u/imanishshah 9 hours ago
    "Noticed this conversation by Twitter support. But no official announcement."
    https://twitter.com/GoogleStadia/status/1225882708087148544
    Eric B Grønneberg Feb 7
    "Why does the games look so much better when playing on the ccu than any browser, even with the vp9 activated?."

    Stadia @GoogleStadia Replying to @EricGronneberg 12:43PM · Feb 7, 2020
    "Hey Eric! 4K support on Chrome was a soft release, this can also depend on the monitor you're using. To confirm, do you get the same result on all games? Also, have you tried adjusting the data usage options in your Stadia app?"

    Eric Sather @errhoss Replying to
    @GoogleStadia and @EricGronneberg
    "Does this mean you're currently rolling out 4k on Chrome?"

    Stadia @GoogleStadia Replying to @errhoss 2:01PM · Feb 7, 2020
    "You got that right, Eric! We'll be starting to roll it out for the next few months. You can find out more here:"
    https://community.stadia.com/t5/Stadia-Community-Blog/Stadia-in-the-New-Year/ba-p/13027

    Google Stadia Cross Save Support
    r/Stadia u/psychoticinsane 14 hours ago
    "I hope more games come to Stadia with cross save available. Being able to link everything together and seamlessly switch between them and immediately play is amazing. i think all games should support it, though i know that's not likely to happen soon. What other current Stadia games have cross play?"
    https://www.reddit.com/r/Stadia/comments/f1cd7t/i_hope_more_games_come_to_stadia_with_cross_save/
    Google Stadia Cross Play Example.jpg

    More new reddit "Google Stadia" posts, and Google updates there on reddit, as well as their blog...

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Stadia/

    A summary of Stadia's 2020 plans...

    Google Stadia 2020 plans, newest games and everything else you need to know
    Expanded Android phone support is on deck for early this year.
    Lori Grunin,Oscar Gonzalez
    February 4, 2020 11:17 AM PST
    https://www.cnet.com/news/google-stadia-2020-plans-newest-games-and-everything-else-we-know/

    Google already testing Stadia on non-Pixel Android phones
    Abner Li - Jan. 11th 2020 1:07 am PT @technacity
    https://9to5google.com/2020/01/11/stadia-non-pixel-test/
    "Playing AAA titles on a phone is a rather futuristic experience that helps sell the promise of Stadia. So far, that’s been limited to Pixel devices, though the goal is to have the streaming service work on every screen. Fortunately, Google is already testing Stadia on non-Pixel Android phones.

    In recent weeks, reports have come in from Stadia subscribers opening the Android app on their non-Pixel devices and seeing “This screen” appear as an option underneath the swirling orange play button. This is instead of “Choose where to play” that suggests a Chromecast Ultra or computer.

    They are able to start a game on Wi-Fi after connecting a third-party or Stadia Controller for an experience identical to the Pixel 2, 3, 3a, and 4. Unfortunately, access only lasts for that session, with “This screen” disappearing after exiting the current game.

    This looks to be an A/B test by Google to gather data about Stadia running on non-Pixel devices. There’s nothing users can do to join this random trial. The handful of early access reports date back to December and several phones, including a OnePlus 6T, Samsung Galaxy 10e, and Note 9. They span several generations and ranges, suggesting Google could expand Stadia support to a wide swath of phones.
    ...more details in the article...

    9to5 google has a Google Stadia guide with lots of articles:
    https://9to5google.com/guides/google-stadia/

    Google May Start Doing Beta Tests For Future Stadia Games
    By Justin Diaz February 05, 2020
    https://www.androidheadlines.com/20...doing-beta-tests-for-future-stadia-games.html
    "It seems that Google may start doing beta tests for games on Stadia. Not necessarily directly though. Instead the beta sessions would go through GBTN.

    If you're unfamiliar with GBTN and you have a Stadia account, you'll want to take note. GBTN is a service called the Global Beta Test Network, and its purpose is to get people to signup for beta tests of games on various platforms.

    Once they have people signup for the beta tests, they send logins and any other related info to the users who are accepted to participate. The users then test games, and then report feedback. Much like any other beta test.

    Stadia beta tests may not happen at all
    GBTN has recently sent out emails to its users to let them know that sessions requiring a Stadia account may happen.

    This suggests that beta testing of games may not happen at all. At least not for a little while. It is possible though to prepare for the potential availability. First what you'll need to do is setup a GBTN account if you don't already have one.

    If you're already a member of GBTN and have participated in previous test sessions, then you're halfway there. Once you have an account setup, or once you login, you can now add your Stadia account, and Stadia controller to your GBTN profile.

    This will allow you to opt into any beta test sessions for Stadia when and if they arise at some point in the future.

    Adding your Stadia account to your GBTN profile
    If you already have a profile set up, then adding your Stadia account is easy. On the main GBTN page after you login, click on the Testing Info tab up top, then click the dropdown option and select Stadia which will be at the very bottom of the list.

    Select it, and then click on the space next to it and enter the email that's associated with your Stadia account. After entering that in, click the add button. That's all there is to it for this particular section of the process.

    You will also need to add your Stadia controller to the profile, as this is considered the "platform" which you'll play games on. Click on the platforms tab all the way to the right. Once it loads, click on the big "Add a Platform" button then again select the dropdown, and select Stadia Controller.

    Once you're done with that step, you're finished. All there is left to do is wait and see if you're contacted regarding beta test sessions that require Stadia. Keep your eyes on your email associated with the GBTN profile, as this is where you'll get notifications about possible tests."

    ...see the GBTN images on in the article for more details...

    Global Beta Testing Network may soon pay players to beta test games on Stadia
    Kyle Bradshaw - Feb. 7th 2020 10:17 am PT @SkylledDev
    https://9to5google.com/2020/02/07/global-beta-testing-network-stadia/

    Some broadband partner news from the Google Stadia Blog:

    BT becomes first European network to partner with Google on new Stadia home broadband offers
    17 JANUARY 2020
    https://newsroom.bt.com/bt-becomes-...h-google-on-new-stadia-home-broadband-offers/
    • BT and Google announce strategic collaboration to continue moving the cloud gaming industry forward

    • New BT Superfast Fibre Stadia Gaming Plans unveiled will push the limits of cloud gaming and allow customers to take full advantage of Google's new-generation gaming platform

    • Partnership will see BT and Google work to promote cloud gaming for all BT customers"
    Verizon teams up with Google to offer next-gen cloud gaming experience
    01.21.2020
    https://www.verizon.com/about/news/verizon-google-offer

    "Instantly play the hottest games on Stadia with the unprecedented speed and capacity of Verizon Fios
     
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    Is that actual 4K or just upscaled to 4K?
     
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    It's still not a released feature is noted in the post, and Google stated on Jan 16th it's gonna happen in the new few months - per other posts - so it could happen anytime in that time period.

    They are talking about Chrome OS (Chromebook) support for 4k - so I would take it as support on the user side where the user is on a Chromebook, and the game itself would be performing the same as other client access.

    The game implementation as it sits on Stadia sets the resolution and how it gets there, it's not a limitation of Stadia it's a limitation of implementation done by the developer of the port. Which can improve over time, and as more developers get experience implementing their platforms on Stadia I would expect the 4k experience to become more and more "real".

    So many Console games are already set to do interpolated checkboard 4k, so it's no surprise that they do the same on Stadia as they are ported over now.

    Perhaps 4k PC game ports will fair better, perhaps not, again it's up to the developer to get their port running on Stadia - I assume with Google's help, but in the beginning that's going to be as much of a learning process for Google as it is for developers - as Google see's new platforms and developer set guidelines for their own games.

    Google keeps up with news weekly or more often on the Google Stadia Community Blog, Stadia Community Forums, and Reddit, and Twitter. I try to watch those portals to see what's new on a (semi-)weekly basis. I'll try to post them here when they are of interest, but I don't always get time all the time - I'll often catch up in a large post when I'm off doing other things.

    Checking there now found a post mentioning a news article about 4k on Chrome:

    4K in Chrome rolling out. Anyone have it yet?
    https://community.stadia.com/t5/Sta...ome-rolling-out-Anyone-have-it-yet/td-p/14928

    Google Stadia begins rolling out 4K gaming in Chrome browser
    https://www.pcgamesn.com/stadia/google-4k-chrome-rollout

    1440P support [use Chrome translate]
    https://community.stadia.com/t5/Stadia-on-Chrome/1440P-support/td-p/14925

    As with all new things they take time - it's best to take a position of patience - and be happy with what you have - as that is all there is right now.

    It's clear to me that Google is pushing through everything they have promised - but in my experience with Google it always takes more time than they expect - the same as most technology companies. It's always a nice surprise when things come in on time or earlier than expected - but don't expect that and you will be much happier. Be aware of this and you won't be disappointed.

    You guys can post new stuff here, and in the other Gaming Cloud threads I started to share their project news too, I don't always have time to keep things current.
     
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    So that's a yes and it's not actually doing 4K?

    I'd be happy about a company when it doesn't lie about what it's providing.
     
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    Stadia provides the platform that supports 4k - if the developer can implement their game in 4k.

    So yes, Stadia provides 4k in their platform, and the developer can implement 4k, but 4k is implemented on a game by game basis - not all games will be native 4k, some will be upscaled, and some won't offer 4k at all.

    In early days there will be more upscaled 4k than real 4k, and over time as developers get a chance to become familiar with the optimizations needed to port their games efficiently, developers will deliver more upscaled 4k and real 4k games.

    It's the same on all hardware platforms, some developers can optimize their games and provide real 4k, or upscaled 4k, but not all of them will develop adequate performance to attain the potential of the platform, and therefore will not be able to deliver 4k real, or upscaled.
     
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    So Google's claim of 56% greater GPU throughput than an Xbox One X ultimately means nothing.

    Screen Shot 2020-02-13 at 8.57.00 AM.png
     
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    Stadia has one thing going for it, and it's streaming image quality.
     
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    Stadia also has no limit to usage vs Geforce Now limiting founders to 6 hours and 1 hour for the Free access:

    "The GeForce Now “Founders” tier lets you play for up to six straight hours, as often as you want, with priority queue access that should get you into your games immediately.Feb 4, 2020"
    https://www.pcworld.com/article/351...lly-here-and-it-demolishes-google-stadia.html
     
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    yeah but myself and many others included rarely play for more than 1 hour as there is alot of things to get done in life and video gaming isn't a priority
     
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    Sure, it's a nice play time limiter built in, if you look at it that way :)
     
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