Go buy Ryzen 3 or wait for Intel next best thing?

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Zen 3 Ryzen or Intel next best thing

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  1. cj_miranda23

    cj_miranda23 Notebook Evangelist

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    What do you guys think? Please discuss...

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    Going to need more information, also you ask for Ryzen 3 or next Intel best which is confusing as Ryzen 3 is budget while "intel best" is generally not so much.

    What is your use case and pricing relative to whats available to you?
     
  3. Deks

    Deks Notebook Prophet

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    I don't think Intel's next 'best' will be good enough or inviting enough.
    Furthermore, it remains to be seen which node will they use.
    Even 10900k cannot actually maintain its 5.3GhZ boost because it begins to overheat and its dropping down to 5.1GhZ... at massive power consumption.
    Basically if you equalize both CPU's clock for clock, Intel loses... Zen 2 already has about 5% larger IPC vs Intel's 'best'.

    I don't quibble over semantics on which firm is 'best at gaming'.
    AMD simply has the better uArch, power consumption and better performance regardless how you want to look at it.
    Even Zen 2 won't disappoint you.

    I'd probably get Zen 3, but obviously, wait to see for third party reviews to verify what AMD said about Zen 3 (though they have been right on the mark since launching Zen in 2017).

    Also, Tiger Lake never got an IPC increase... the 10nm node its made on (finally) allowed Intel to bump up the clocks (by about 50% over previous generation)... that and its also because its a 4c/8th chip (lower amount of physical cores means you can usually crank up the clocks higher than usual - it will be interesting to see if Intel will be able to retain high clocks on their upcoming 8c/16th Tiger lake chip - probably not without blowing through their power consumption).

    I couldn't really recommend Intel to anyone for several reasons: inferior uArch/lower IPC, high power consumption (which admittedly give it higher clocks - but this produces a MINOR improvement in performance even over Zen 2), virtually non-existent IPC gains over the past 3 years (except perhaps on their newest upcoming uArch, but that remains to be seen).

    Also, Intel won't be releasing its newest CPU's until March 2021.
    You sure you want to wait 5 months? Albeit... this might not be a bad idea as it would probably allow Zen 3 to drop in price by then so you could basically get it for a proverbial steal.

    It also depends on when do you need your computer.
    Are you in a rush... what is your current setup and what are you using it for?

    There's something to be said about not having to buy new hw with every generation.
    Look at my signature... I'm not planning on upgrading for another 2 or 3 years.
     
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    This is a Apple to Apples alot depends on what apps favor which CPU or what $/CPU your looking to get out for performance. We can have debate all day long and end of the day won't resolve the question. Yes, iNtel does charge a pretty penny for their CPU but AMD CPU are coming with performance for less so alot will depends on your Funds to purchase one or the other or what Vendors will give you benefits in return.
     
  5. Casowen

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    I am really open to ryzen paired with a nice nvidia gpu.
     
  6. yosv211

    yosv211 Notebook Consultant

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    Its a troll post
     
  7. Ed. Yang

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    Nein!
    Goes ARM betta!!! And APPLE is taking the lead once more time!!!
     
  8. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    I'm closing this thread since there's no clear topic and discussion isn't going to go anywhere.
    OP, if you want to add a topic or put in a use-case that would give this thread direction, message me, and we'll probably reopen the thread.
    Charles
     
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