GL702VI with GTX1080 is out. Anyone?

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  1. hmscott

    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Sure, but you seem to feel you've reach the potential of the hardware, and there is no more tuning to do. And you are not happy with the end result.

    So either you find a way to be happy with what you have, or you instead spend time trying to find ways to pick at it's inability to make you happy, and as it turns out it's much easier to find fault and inadequacy - a range of performance beyond which the hardware won't deliver - than it is to be happy with what you have.

    At this point you can return or sell your laptop and continue chasing happiness outside the reach of your current hardware, or enjoy what you have.

    Again, even if you were to find a laptop 1080 that delivered 2000mhz+, it wouldn't give enough of an FPS boost to be noticeable. It's just numbers.

    If you want sizeable improvement, noticeable bump in FPS, wait for the next generation GPU's to arrive in laptops - and hopefully they will drive performance high enough to not quite reach 240hz monitor refresh - 240 FPS, and people will be unhappy with that plateau as well.

    I've seen it happen dozens of times over many years, when you've optimized to the limits of the best hardware someone will come out with a new yardstick that measures outside those limits that you won't be able to reach, without new hardware.

    That's how these guys make money. You know that, right? The whole game is tuned to continually extract money from your "unhappy" pockets to attain happiness.

    That's the optimal response tuning that is performed on us. ;)

    Instead of being an "optimized" unhappy victim of the money grubbers game, choose to allow yourself to finally attain happiness.

    You've got the best hardware - tuned to it's optimal limits - there is no more useful performance in this generation to attain, so now it is up to you to decide to be happy having attained "the best".

    Happiness is not something you buy, it's something you allow yourself to have - and it's free!! :)
     
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  2. Kevin@GenTechPC

    Kevin@GenTechPC Company Representative

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    Not everything are made equal, perhaps yours needs a different approach of settings and make sure the cooling is working efficiently.
     
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    Sorry you are not happy with your results. I'm sure if you ran a game on a good binned laptop vs. your result you would not really see much of a difference other than in benchmarks. If it makes you feel any better my 7700HQ is a weak one. The best single core score I ever got and it was only one time was 155 marks in cinebench . Seems like 160-165 is not uncommon for msi, aorus, and other extra premium laptops. I tend to get 140-147 marks. Kinda makes the extra gains i got with my gtx 1080 overclock less exciting since there is a bit of a bottle neck going on. Any games settings that involve high cpu usage are very much felt while gaming. As long as i tweak those settings a little, games run awesome. Vermintide 2 tells you what each setting impacts which helps to fine tune that game. if you get a chance, run cinebenchR15 single core test, heaven benchmark, 3d mark firestrike demo, and superposition. We can compare and see if it's really that big of a delta. Remember that even these laptops are not up to today's desktop speeds. They are WAY closer than in previous years thanks to pascal however. Like the very wise words mentioned before, don't forget to have fun gaming on your laptop. When ever i travel or work at my other facility this laptop spoils me with great performance everywhere i go. I have friends that don't even have this level of performance in their desktops. Eluktronics has a desktop i7 8700k laptop if you want to full monty @ a reasonable $3k price. I already have a super gaming desktop pc, so it would have been a bit pretentious of me to speed that much more for a mobile version of my desktop. http://www.eluktronics.com/P775TM1-G if thin and light don't matter to you, this laptop is like Thanos's glove. lol
     
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  4. ColinMacLaren

    ColinMacLaren Notebook Enthusiast

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    I got this laptop fairly cheap (1.500 EUR) with my "old" G752VS with i6700hq/GTX1070 selling for 1.150 on ebay. So this was a reasonable investment for a significant performance boost (and slightly better display). Since I am using an external 1440p monitor this upgrade really did make a difference, keeping the Framerate above 144fps in First-Person-Shooter games.

    My GTX1070 laptop maxed out at 1648MHz. After improving the cooling on the G702VI (repaste with liquid metal, putting some electrical tape on the gaps between fand and cooler, Opolar laptop cooler on hot days) my temps max out at around 75°C, a 10°C improvement over stock. Lower temps also improve efficiency of the mosfets, so higher clocks are attainable. I now max out at 1.900MHz which is a 44% improvement in raw computing power compared to my old laptop.
     
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    vark8d Newbie

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    Hey everyone!

    I have this laptop as well, I purchased just "as is" from the store (as in no re-pasting/upgrades/etc) and I'm not feeling like opening it up to re-paste and all that jazz (yet :) maybe in the future!), but just wanted to get some additional info about it, as there was very little to be found when I first got it.

    I, too, was all hung up about the numbers compared to other laptops with similar hardware seeming to outperform this one, and was feeling a little down about it.

    But once I got over that and just started using it for the purpose I bought it for in the first place, I started to really see how awesome it is!

    One of the first things I did when I got it was, as was previously stated about bloatware and whatnot, is to do a fresh format/partition with Windows 10 Pro (Education) WITHOUT any ASUS/other bloat. And once I reinstalled some of the ASUS stuff, including the AURA software, I am able to use my keyboard lighting just as before. So I am sorry to hear you had issues with it, I am not sure why that is, because I have seen zero issues with it whatsoever. I can change adjust all of the settings exactly as I was able to before, so any others with this concern, I think maybe it is not a universal problem...

    My question to anyone that can help is, I am VERY new to laptop gaming, and was looking to see what kind of tweaks I can do to get the best performance out of my system that I have grown very appreciative of (and attached to!)

    I am hitting in the lower 90s when gaming (on my CPU) and feel as though I could be doing better, possibly with an undervolt? And if there is any headroom for GPU overclock, I am willing to give that a try as well.

    I apologize for my noob-ness, but is there anyone that could give me a tutorial on how to do such things with this specific laptop? Or point me in the right direction of where to start?

    Thanks to everyone that has provided their experiences thus far, it is greatly appreciated!
     
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    vark8d Newbie

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    Oh! Also! For anyone with this laptop that has had issues getting VR to work, specifically the OCULUS RIFT!

    I had a heck of a time trying to get this figured out! But, finally, after extensive testing and researching, I found out how to get it to work.

    For whatever reason, the HDMI port does NOT work with the Rift headset. It worked fine for Windows Mixed Reality headsets, but for whatever reason, it refused to work with the Oculus Rift.

    I tried using a mini-DisplayPort to HDMI adapter (from Walmart - ONN brand I believe) and that also did NOT work.

    I was about to give up.

    Until I saw a similar post from someone on Reddit, and found that not all mini-DP to HDMI adapters are the same! They said they got one from Best Buy (Insignia brand) and it worked for them.

    So, I didn't believe it would work, but thought I had nothing else left to try, so why not...

    And.... it worked!

    So, FYI to anyone with a similar issue.. try another adapter, as I found the Insignia brand worked perfectly and I have had zero issues since!
     
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    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    That's awesome info, a bit more detail though, which model / part number / sku at BestBuy is the right one? Link? URL? Thank you! :)
     
  8. ColinMacLaren

    ColinMacLaren Notebook Enthusiast

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    I have been using my Oculus Rift on the GL702 HDMI out for half a year now. No problems at all.
     
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    Ah, you must have the 702 "VM" or maybe you do have the "VI" but with a different sub-model than the "wb74". It is a known issue with the "wb74", confirmed with others using this specific model. Always had to use the mini-dp to HDMI adapter with the Oculus Rift.
    Otherwise, audio may or may not work, but video definitely does not.
    Black screen in the Rift headset when going directly in to the HDMI port.
     
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    vark8d Newbie

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    I think ANY Insignia brand adapter will work. The Walmart "ONN" brand must not be able to pass through enough bandwidth for the rift, I assume. That or some other technical issue prevents it from working.
    Either way, I just went to my local Best Buy and grabbed the first Insignia brand adapter I saw and it works perfectly.
    Others have reported the same with Insignia brand, whether ordered online and shipped to them, or picking up from a Best Buy store, had worked every time.
    I'm sure other brands work as well, I just know for a fact, the Walmart ONN brand does NOT work!
     
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