Getting an Nvidia 900 series (or 1060) working in a P170EM

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  1. John3

    John3 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I currently have a dead 7970M (or mostly dead...works sometimes for a few seconds) in my NP9170. I'm hoping to avoid getting another 7970M since they seem to have a bad habit of dying after about 2 years or at least showing signs of dying. Mine died just a bit after 2 years so been using the onboard card for the past few years. After digging around and getting some help from a couple very helpful posters here I've decided I want to try to get a 970M (or a 1060 or 980M if I could find one cheap but not likely). Found some decent deals out there for video cards within my very limited budget but I'm reluctant to buy anything until I know whether it's likely or not that I'll be able to get a hold of the necessary bios (and maybe vbios?) to get it to work in my laptop.

    Are there any alternatives available for getting those cards working in a P170EM besides using the V3 Prema bios? I checked with my reseller (a Prema partner) but they only have the Prema bios for a few models they currently sell, not the P170EM :( I'm hoping I'm not going to be stuck with just trying to find another 7970M or finding an nvidia 670 or 675. It'd be nice to get an upgrade if I'm replacing the card. I PM'd Prema but I'm sure he's quite busy, flooded with messages, and I definitely understand if he doesn't send out the bios anymore so figured I'd check to see if it's possible to get any of those cards working another way.

    Guess another question I have is would an older version of the Prema bios or an older version of the Eurocom one work instead? Both of those are still linked on other forums but I'm not too sure they're unaltered or not or if it's OK to use so I'm reluctant to use one of them since it's not from an official source.

    Thanks for the help and any advice. If there is another way to get it working (different bios, etc) even if it didn't have all the extra features enabled as long as will allow me to use the card I'd be happy. Tired of using the onboard card, it's really limited my gaming the past few years :p
     
  2. Danishblunt

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    Seriously people need to stop thinking they need Prema BIOS for GPU upgrades.

    Your stock BIOS will absolutely suffice.
     
  3. Meaker@Sager

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    It's not too surprising with the whole 980m and driver thing.
     
  4. John3

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    Likely so many people (myself included) thought it was required because it's almost always talked about as needed in other threads about the 900 series on a P170EM. Hell, in some threads it's flat listed as mandatory in the instructions (both bios AND vbios upgrades for it to work). I spent a ton of time the past couple of weeks digging around on this forum, that tech inferno place, and a few forums that I had to run through google translate, etc to try to figure out if it was really needed or not or if there was an alternative. I was fairly convinced that I needed that bios and likely vbios to get it working (or at least working with switchable graphics and being able to use it without gimping it) based on all the other threads but wasn't certain. So thanks for clearing that up :) Really glad to hear the stock bios will work!

    So, is it just necessary to use the Prema Bios if someone wants to overclock (not planning on doing that) or is it mainly that it makes things easier to get working initially, gives more bios options & easier to maintain (no worries about having to modify inf file, etc)?
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    For the 10xx series there is no difference. For the 9xx series it can help not need modified drivers.
     
  6. Khenglish

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    Starting with 360 series drivers there was error 43 issues with 900 series cards on EM systems on stock system bios. Is this no longer the case with 400 series drivers? I have looked into this and never found any definitive answer.
     
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    You can ask Danish about that, it has been around 5 years since I personally was playing around with the EM.
     
  8. Danishblunt

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    I believe this glitch got fixed in later BIOS revisions.
     
  9. Khenglish

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    So later vBIOS fixed it? Clevo never made a bios update for EM series after the SM series came out.

    My system no longer uses optimus, so I do not know if I can plug in a 900 series with a non Prema v3 and test if regular 15x and 17x systems would also work.
     
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    That is like a sleeper car Khenglish lol.
     
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