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  1. Conquas

    Conquas Newbie

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    1) What is your budget?
    £3000-4000

    2) What size notebook would you prefer?
    Desktop Replacement; 17"+ screen

    3) Which country will you buying this notebook?
    UK

    4) Are there any brands that you prefer or any you really don't like?
    I strongly dislike Apple

    5) Would you consider laptops that are refurbished/redistributed?
    Not really no

    6) What are the primary tasks will you be performing with this notebook?
    Gaming, Browsing, Using Finance Software

    7) Will you be taking the notebook with you to different places, leaving it on your desk or both?
    Primarily leaving at home but will take with me on extended work trips

    8) Will you be playing games on your notebook? (If so, please state which games or types of games?)
    Yes – Fallout, Assassin’s Creed, Call of Duty, For Honor, various Forza titles, Shadow of Mordor

    9) How many hours of battery life do you need?
    Laptop will be connected to the charger most of the time, but if needed around 3/4 hours

    10) Would you prefer to see the notebooks you're considering before purchasing it or buying a notebook on-line without seeing it is OK?
    I’d like to see it online

    11) What OS do you prefer? Windows, Mac OS, Linux, Chrome OS, etc.
    Windows, I have heard of tweaks being done to it to disable tracking and logging?

    Screen Specifics

    12) What screen resolution(s) would you prefer?
    Quad HD

    13) Do you want a glossy/reflective screen or a matte/non-glossy screen?
    Whichever is best for vibrant colours but I don’t want to degrade my eyes further

    Build Quality and Design

    14) Are the notebook's looks and stylishness important to you?
    I don’t mind but don’t want it looking completely like a brick

    Notebook Components

    15) How much hard drive space do you need?
    2TB SSD, 4TB HDD

    Timing, Warranty and Longevity

    16) When are you buying this laptop?
    January/February 2019

    17) How long do you expect to use this laptop?
    4 years

    18) How long could you afford to do without your laptop if it were to fail?
    Forever unless my work laptop happens to have a breakdown

    19) Would you be willing to pay significantly extra for on-site warranty, or would it be acceptable to you to have to ship the laptop to the vendor for repair with perhaps a week or more outage?
    Don’t see on site warranty as a necessity

    Further comments;
    Would appreciate recommendations on a solid gaming headset, the less bloatware the better
    I prioritize heat dissipation over fan noise but don't want it to be too noticeable

    Thank you for reading
     
  2. Anthony Accioly

    Anthony Accioly Notebook Consultant

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    I'm pretty sure that someone will soon jump in and recommend either a Clevo P775 or a P870. Both are great machines. I would personally go with the P775 unless you have a good reason to go with a SLI setup.

    If you decide to go Clevo there are several good options. PCSpecialist in the UK, Obsidian in Portugal (would be my personal choice for the amazing customer support) or HIDevolution in the US (very popular around the forum; make sure to pay for Global Waranty. I'm sure that a forum member will also offer to tweak your system for you if you buy with them).

    However, just to suggest a second option that was perfect for me: with £3000 you can buy a good gaming desktop rig + a perfectly fine ThinkPad or Dell + a Nvidia Shield + a top of the line router. That's exactly what I'm doing right now (in fact my old Clevo machine is used as a replacement for the desktop rig). I don't play shooter games competitively. For other kinds of games, IMO, in-house streaming is barely noticeable. Plus it is great to have a good screen / keyboard / 8 hours of battery when you need it. Just my two cents.
     
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    Conquas Newbie

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    Thank you for your reply. I will be sure to take a look at the P775 and the P870

    I'm favouring HIDevolution at the moment because of the wealth of great reviews I have seen. Although I don't exactly understand this discount thing if you comment you're from this site?

    I plan to buy a gaming rig when I have more space which will be when I move house. Will need to look at options then as well.
     
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    Anthony Accioly Notebook Consultant

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    No problem at all. HID has some great EVOCS if you want to go with Clevo. They also have popular high end machines from MSI like the GT83 or GT75 if that's more to your liking.

    About discounts, PM @Donald@HIDevolution or @Ted@HIDevolution and ask for it :). They may even allow you to customize your rig and buy it straight from Amazon.UK (that's what I did and the shipping experience was flawless), with either 1 year UK only guarantee or up to 3 years Global Warranty. Since you have mentioned that shipping the product abroad for repairs is not a problem (if needed) I guess that HID will work well for you.

    Cheers,
     
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    I think I am going for the MSI GT83. Still open to anything else till I will actually buy it
    Thank you for the tip about discounts :)

    Would you be able to shed more light on something like a Phoenix Windows OS please?

    Cheers
     
  6. Anthony Accioly

    Anthony Accioly Notebook Consultant

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    Unfortunatelly Phoenix has blocked me quite a while ago and he now uses a different name in the forum. However it shouldn't be hard to find him around. He does an excellent job at customizing Windows. If you buy your machine from HID I think that he will still tweak it for you.
    If you want to do it yourself follow his thread: http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/nbr-windows-10-clean-installation-guide.781178/. The most important steps, IMO, are disabling telemetry, Cortana and Windows Security. I've also adopted Everything and Autoruns thanks to him.
     
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    Appreciate the clarification :)
     
  8. Spartan

    Spartan Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I recommend you one of these 2:

    Custom Built MSI GT75 8RG TITAN-094 17.3" w/ G-Sync nVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080

    or

    EVOC High Performance Systems P775TM1 17.3" Custom Built Gaming Laptop w/ nVIDIA GTX 1060, 1070 or 1080

    Don't forget to read my review here about the GT75:

    MSI GT73VR 7RF Titan Pro-425 Review By Phoenix



    To get the NBR Discount, just email donald@hidevolution.com and ask him about the model you want. It's a small discount but hey, why not?

    Also, if you do end up joining the HIDevolution Gaming Team, then I can help you tweak it, these are my tweaks:

    1- Uninstallation of all the Windows Store Garbage Apps like 3D Paint, Print 3D, Alarms & Clock, Feedback Hub, Maps, Groove Music, News, Weather, etc.
    2- Removing all Windows 10 Privacy Invasion stuff like Telemetry, sending your keystrokes to Microsoft, automatically installing suggested apps in the background, allowing Microsoft to conduct experiments on your laptop, disabling automatic driver updates through Windows updates, disabling Windows 10 ads, disabling Cortana, Cloud Search etc.
    3- Disabling Microsoft Edge from starting up automatically in the background upon reboot.
    4- Adjusting a lot of options in PC Settings like disabling Windows Tablet Mode (you have a laptop not a tablet), disabling suggestions appearing in the start menu, disabling automatically connecting to Paid WiFi Hotspots, disabling Game DVR which reduced performance in games, and a lot more.
    5- Replacing Cortana with a much better search tool that finds results instantly called Everything which finds any file you want as soon as you start typing even a few letters of its name and it doesn't even rely on the Windows Indexing Service to do this!
    6- Restoring the classic Windows Photo Viewer
    7- Restoring the Classic Windows 7 Start Menu
    8- Removal of the new and useless 3D Objects Folder that appears when you open "Computer"
    9- Completely disabling Windows Defender from its roots (including all scheduled tasks and startup files) for those who want to install their own AV. ESET NOD32 Antivirus is highly recommended if you want the utmost security with the least system performance impact.
    10- Updating all drivers to the latest versions in case they weren't up to date.
    11- Disabling the performance hit that is caused by the Meltdown and Spectre patches recently released by Microsoft (optional, only if you don't mind having this security vulnerability and would rather have your CPU's full performance back)
    12- Overprovisioning your SSD anywhere between 10-20% depending on how much space you can spare to ensure optimal and consistent performance at all times.
    13- Blocking the Google Chrome Software Reporter Tool (which causes a high system load when it is scanning files)
    14- Preventing Microsoft Edge from running on startup in the background
    15- Creating a system restoration image using Macrium Reflect
    [​IMG]


     
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  9. Blacky

    Blacky Notebook Prophet

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    Hi,

    You have a generous budget, you could definitely opt for a GTX 1080.
    I did a search here for laptops with GTX 1080 or GTX 1080 SLI. Most of them can also be configured with a 2K / 4K display: noteb search.
    You can see and change the search parameters using the "Refine results" button in the upper-left part of the search results page. You can also click on the laptops for more information.

    From all these laptops I recommend either a Clevo or MSI laptop. The MSI GT series comes with a normal laptop processor and has no known issues. The Clevo on the other comes with desktop processors and need some tinkering to work without throttling and give you the best performance.

    The Gigabyte Aorus is also a nice laptop, but sometimes they have cooling issues, so do some research beforehand.

    The best laptop for your budget, in my opinion, is the Clevo P870TM. But you need to thermal mod it.
     
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