Gaming Laptop $2400 Budget for quality and cooling

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  1. Sylvette

    Sylvette Newbie

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    I posted a similar thread on another forum by accident, and figured I should make one on the thread it belongs instead.

    I travel semi-frequently, and getting a laptop is my best choice for mobility. But with so many different potential laptops (all with their pros and cons), I find myself going back and forth on which to choose. Some buddies of mine suggest I go for GTX 1080 for future-proofing, while others say it's overkill for gaming on 1080p. But I'm not familiar enough with laptops to say whether 3k or 4k gaming is worth the investment.

    Many thanks in advance!

    General Questions

    1) What is your budget?

    - $2200~$2400

    2) What size notebook would you prefer?

    e. Desktop Replacement; 17"+ screen

    3) Where will you buying this notebook? You can select the flag of your country as an indicator.

    US, UK, or Hong Kong. Likely case is, will be buying it only from US to ship to HK, and I'll either bring it to UK myself, or my family (who've kindly offered) to bring it with them to the UK when they come to visit.

    Likely will buy from HIDevolution (omw to sending Mr. Donald a link to this thread as well :)).

    4) Are there any brands that you prefer or any you really don't like?

    a. Like: Any
    b. Dislike: Acer, HP

    5) Would you consider laptops that are refurbished/redistributed?

    No

    6) What are the primary tasks will you be performing with this notebook?

    Gaming as primary, but will also be spending a lot of time typing. Will also be using statistical software, and light photo-editing. I'll probably have 1-2 applications (eg. chrome, discord, IBM SPSS 24) running in the background while gaming.

    7) Will you be taking the notebook with you to different places, leaving it on your desk or both?

    If it's not on my desk, it'll be in my check-in luggage. So weight, battery, and thickness is not an issue for me. Only build quality and cooling are my major points besides overall specs.

    8) Will you be playing games on your notebook? If so, please state which games or types of games?

    I've got Nier: Automata and Darksouls 3 sadly collecting dust in my steam acc because my laptop can't run it. But I'd love to be able to play a variety of games on the laptop.

    9) How many hours of battery life do you need?

    n/a, it'll be plugged in 99% of the time.

    10) Would you prefer to see the notebooks you're considering before purchasing it or buying a notebook on-line without seeing it is OK?

    Planning to visit my local Curry's PC World to get a feel of the laptops in person, but I trust the experts in the forums here too, as many do :)

    11) What OS do you prefer? Windows (Windows 7 / 8), Mac OS, Linux, Chrome OS, etc.

    Windows

    Screen Specifics

    12) From the choices below, what screen resolution(s) would you prefer? Keep in mind screen size in conjunction with resolution will play a large role in overall viewing comfort level. Everyone is different. Some like really small text, while others like their text big and easy to read. (Scroll down to see screen resolution information.)

    Prioritising on specs and build quality, I would aim for 1080p to suit my budget. But 3k res would be nice if it can be within the budget.

    13) Do you want a glossy/reflective screen or a matte/non-glossy screen?

    Glossy, but I'm alright with either in consideration to build quality and cooling.

    Build Quality and Design

    14) Are the notebook's looks and stylishness important to you?

    No, although I wouldn't say no to an RGB keyboard ;)

    15) When are you buying this laptop?

    Between now and 2 months, or later if needed

    16) How long do you want this laptop to last?

    At least 2-3 years running high/ultra (or moderate/high for later years)

    Notebook Components

    17) How much hard drive space do you need? Do you want a SSD drive?

    Ideally ~250GB SSD and 1TB HDD

    18) Do you need an optical drive? If yes, a DVD Burner, Blu-ray Reader or Blu-Ray Burner?

    Nope
     
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  2. Galm

    Galm "Stand By, We're Analyzing The Situation!"

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    Futureproofing isn't all that long term. A GTX 1080 laptop isn't twice as fast as a 1060 laptop. It doesn't quite scale linearly. At the moment for 1080p 60Hz gaming a 1060 does pretty well. But if you up that to 144Hz or a higher resolution a GTX 1080 will definitely be able to stretch its legs. But all the current gpus will be pretty outdated 3 years from now.

    Your budget is kind in between though where the 1070 ends and 1080 begins. A well specced 1080 laptop with a 1440p 120Hz display for example would most likely be out of budget. If portability isn't really a concern the MSI GT Series is worth a look. The problem is a GT75 with a 1080 is above your budget. On the more slim side a Clevo PA71ES or MSI GE73 would both be in budget with GTX 1070 gpus. It sounds like you don't mind thickness but I'm a little torn what to recommend in that case. The desktop cpu Clevos will run too much and aren't worth it in budget with a 1070. The GE73 may still end up being a pretty good option.
     
  3. Sylvette

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    Portability isn't a concern, I won't be bringing the laptop much anywhere besides the desk or luggage. I agree with what you mean about the budget being at the start and end of the two GPU's. If I can still game in moderate (or high, even) after 2-3 years, I'm happy :) Do you think the GT73VR would be a better option in terms of budget? I'm not against thinner laptops, but it seems thermal cooling on them would be a bigger problem considering the chassis, so I don't mind thickness at all.
     
  4. Ice Cold

    Ice Cold Notebook Deity

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    Simple for you budget and Expectations.

    #1. MSI GS65
    #2. Gigabyte Aero 15X
    #3. Asus Zephyrus-M

    All feature GTX 1070 MaxQ 8GB Video Card the Asus has a Full 1070, not MaxQ but also has the shortest battery.
    I bought the Aero 15X
     
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  5. MBN

    MBN Notebook Enthusiast

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    I agree with @Galm on the above. I myself was in the same spot last week. Similar budget and same two shortlisted laptops.

    Getting a GTX 1070 and spending extra to modify it would be better than getting a stock 1080 with stock SKU. As it gives you room to configure things better towards your preference.

    I would suggest looking at the below options as both can be spec'd similarly with your budget. both feature full GTX 1070. With the MSI, you have around 350$ of modifications you can apply on things like SSD,RAM, Thermal Interface Materials etc. While on the Clevo you have a lot more to spend,around 751$.


    1. MSI GE73 -2049$

    2. Clevo PA71ES -1649$

    In the end, it will go down to your preference, looks, keyboard, cooling, noise levels and overall laptop profile..
     
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  6. Galm

    Galm "Stand By, We're Analyzing The Situation!"

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    I would not get a thin and light if it isn't needed. More likely to throttle and have other issues.

    @Sylvette I wouldn't want a GT73 because I'd want a new 6 core cpu.
     
  7. Sylvette

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    Not a fan of Max-Q. I would agree with Galm that the thinner options have a lot of throttle issues, and I'm not looking for portability as well.

    @Galm is the 6 core worth it for gaming in 1080p over the cheaper 4 core? I'm not familiar with the cpu's, so I'm not sure if I should get it or not

    I heard that clevo may not have great keyboards for typing? I don't really care much about looks, just the quality and cooling, but a good keyboard is appreciated as I spend a lot of time making word documents and plugging in stats as well.

    I'll do a bit of research on the MSI GE73 as well as it seems like a good laptop for my budget :)
     
  8. RampantGorilla

    RampantGorilla Notebook Deity

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    Get the Defiance V (Clevo PA71ES) from PCSpecialist. It comes with an option of a 1080p 144Hz display or a 1440p 120Hz display as well as an option for a i7 8750H or an i9 8950HK. Go to https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/laptops/ and scroll down.

    A review of the laptop, but with a i7 7700HQ can be found here.
     
  9. RampantGorilla

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    I would trust the people at Curry's just as much as I'd trust the people at Kwik Fit with my car.
     
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  10. Galm

    Galm "Stand By, We're Analyzing The Situation!"

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    Depends which Clevo model keyboard wise. The PA71 keyboard is fine, it's the P870 and P775 one that's not very good. It's a much older design for whatever reason.

    And if it's 4 vs 6 cores for 60Hz gaming there won't be much difference. To be honest I think it's a bit overkill if you want a GTX 1080 for 1080p 60Hz gaming. 144Hz makes a lot more sense. In that situation the extra cores are more likely to be able to help in cpu intensive titles.
     
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