FZ-VEBG11 desktop dock internal pictures

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  1. interestingfellow

    interestingfellow Notebook Deity

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    I recently scored an FZ-VEBG11 desktop cradle for my FZ-G1 for just $100 delivered!

    I want to pin out the connector on my FZ G1 and figured a dock might be a good way to do that.

    The dock connector looks like it is mostly power and USB.
    The dock has 2 usb ports, 1 hdmi, 1 network, and 1 serial port. It appears that they are all USB based devices and not analogue connections through the dock to corresponding components.

    The dock is advertised as not for use as a car dock and I can see why; a spring loaded wheel is the only restraint holding the FZ-G1 into the dock The benefit is that it is super easy to get into/out of the dock.
    Anyway, here are some terrible pictures.Enjoy.
     

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  2. towelie

    towelie Notebook Geek

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    The only dock that i encountered so far that had real pass through(at least for gpu) was the CF-52 one. With my MK5 performance i could use the displayport on it to feed multiple 1080p displays or a 4k 60hz one. With devices such as FZ-G1, CF-54 and CF-20 you are limited to the hdmi port that does not support 4k 60hz
     
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    I bought a CF U1 dock and opened it to trace the usb port connections.

    What I found was the data connections are on the docking port but the power connection (5V) is not.
    It gets that from the power supply connected to the dock.
     
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    I am going t to build a custom lightweight FZG1 car dock because I refuse to pay $400 for something I can build better suited to my needs for $20.

    I have the following concerns/questions:

    1- I would like to incorporate a USB plug or two (or just add a usb hub), but am not sure if I need to include some sort of shock/static/etc protection that may required to protect the D+/D- on USB, or if I can just POGO connect them?

    2- I am not sure if I need to include some sort of shock/static/etc protection possibly for the DC power connections. I know power gnd needs to connect first with a longer POGO pin for grounding purposes.

    3- The FZG1 does not output 5v for external USB. I was planning on using an RC hobby grade 5v 10amp BEC switching regulator for the USB 5v supply; I planned on grounding the BEC at the same location as he LIND power supply will I be using in order to eliminate a potential ground loop.

    I was really hoping some Jedi masters might chime in.....
    Thanks, y'all!
     
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    Shawn Crackpot Search Ninja and Options Whore

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    Simple question to ponder.
    Does a standard usb connector have any special grounding or static protection?
    The usb port on the dock is not any different other than the type of connector. At least for D- and D+
     
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    sxueshu Notebook Enthusiast

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    base your picture
    thanks for share the picture

    i want to confirm the 24 pin dock connector

    24 * 23 * 22 * 21 * 20 GND 19 USB3DMRX 18 USB3DPRX 17 GND 16 USB3DMTX 15 USB3DPTX 14 GND 13 USB2DM 12 USB2DP 11 GND 10 5V 9 5V 8 5V 7 16V 6 16V 5 16V 4 GND 3 * 2 * 1 *

    *is unknown and i have no hardware to check dock connector is right or wrong
    and   22 & 1 maybe is short to gnd ???? to let 5v & 16 out & in. i think ???

    maybe you can confirm something and tell me
    thank you
    i can't upload any picture to this forum ,i have't the right .maybe i 'm a new man
    can you give me your mail add?
     
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    sxueshu Notebook Enthusiast

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    i think 24pin connector is a usb 3.0 port and 16v power source
    vebg11 is a usb hub
    use smsc chip which is have 4 usb3.0 port and 3 usb 2.0 port
    one usb3.0 port is for display link chip(hdmi&vga) and another one is for lan
     
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    OOOH! Someone else who is interested in the pinuot!

    So far as I know, the dock connector does not put *out* voltage, only signals. That's why the ikey keyboards have to have a battery in them.

    I see why the usb2 pins are easy to spot. I'm assuming you looked at the pin order on the usb chip for the order of the pins on the dock connector? which chip is the USB chip?

    All of the devices in the dock are USB. I was assuming that 1-3 and/or 21-24 were to do with usb2 ports. I thought maybe multiple usb connections would be used to increase bandwidth.

    Did you check the pins for voltage on your g1? I would try, but I have no meter with me.

    my email is my username at hotmail.com, btw.
     
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  10. towelie

    towelie Notebook Geek

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    I do have a FZ-G1 mk1 with the desktop dock and it powers on a 2.5in hard drive from the dock usb port, no ac power connected at all.
    My IKEY model IK-PAN-FZG1-C1-V5 with usb port and it does not have an internal battery.
     
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