Future xps model discussion.

Discussion in 'Dell XPS and Studio XPS' started by kojack, Dec 19, 2017.

  1. kojack

    kojack Notebook Virtuoso

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    Thoughts on what dell is maybe cooking up? I think they are soon going to go surface book style with detachable displays. I have a feeling the 13 and 15 will at least have the option to do this.
     
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    don_svetlio In the Pipe, Five by Five.

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    Their primary concerns should be fixing the thermal problems that are plaguing XPS models currently. A SB-like gimmick is not really needed at the moment but proper VRM cooling is. Especially with the addition of more CPU cores in the form of the 8700H - if they re-use the same design as the current 9560 - the cooling and power delivery will be a disaster and probably end up with major throttling even under moderate load.

    I'd also say fixing the cam and microphone placement is a must - it's a high-end luxury device with a webcam that is pointed at people's noses. Increasing the size of the top bezel is a small trade-off for having a usable webcam. I'd also like to see a better screen - preferably with less ghosting and potentially better BIOS support (so as to avoid the 9550 mess)

    EDIT: Also, please Dell, stop trying to be Apple - Rose Gold XPSes are NOT needed. Thank you in advance,
    - a concerned laptop enthusiast.
     
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    kojack Notebook Virtuoso

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    I also think they will be pushing vr more too. Gonna be interesting times.
     
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    Pushing VR requires a lot of performance - I believe the 1060 is a minimum entry-point currently - that requires good cooling and more room. Their current XPS models cannot even keep a 7700HQ + 1050 performing optimally even with mods to the VRM design. I seriously doubt they'd be able to achieve anything in terms of VR capability with an overheating 1060.
     
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    I'd be curious to see if they could pull off a 1060 max-q in it. They should take some of their thermal cooling design from the 7577 even if that means a little thicker XPS. Hell while they are at it, lets add the XPS17 to the mix...
     
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    hb720x Notebook Guru

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    I'm waiting for the upcoming model XPS 15, as a combination of poor discounts, inferior build quality, and a offset keyboard have made me far less likely to purchase the Gigabyte Aero 15. Dell also has decent launch promotions compared to other laptop manufacturers. Dell should definitely make the next XPS 15 a bit thicker for better cooling, along with a redesigned thermal solution. I would also be interested to see a GTX 1060 Max-Q inside, even if it doesn't reach the same clock speeds as the one in the Dell Inspiron 7577. Even a bit of throttling isn't a huge concern to me as the current throttling is, where a few minutes of intense programs or games running on the laptop results in massive performance drops. Less light bleeding in the new model would be an improvement as well. I hope they keep strong battery life as a priority, as the combination of FHD and the 97whr battery produced really strong results for daily use. Speaker positioning and quality should be overhauled too, and I would like for them to be upfront besides the keyboard on either side. As for the XPS 17, I would really like to see that, but I doubt it, given how the 17 inch space now is occupied by either ultra chunky gaming beasts and budget ulv cpu laptops. I do actually prefer 17 inch displays for viewing the web and general productivity, as 15.6 sometimes feels inadequate. There seem to be no high performance thin and light 17 inch laptops in the low 5 lb range besides the MSI GS73VR, but that has so-so build quality and MSI's trademark mediocre battery life.
     
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    kojack Notebook Virtuoso

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    I think thats all the more reason to make an xps 17. They would be in rarified territory. I think they would get people that wanted a macbook pro 17 coming their way. I have used the Inspiron 17 7000 and its quite impressive. I will have to retire my acer 17" tank soon, and I would love to get an XPS 17 to fill that void. If not, I will be getting the 17" 7000 series.
     
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    Vasudev Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Try Razer Blade 17. I don't think Dell will invest in thin 17" lappies because they have AW17s.
    Main focus should be improving heatsink and fan speeds that responds to quick change in temps.
     
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    kojack Notebook Virtuoso

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    I have used razer's in the past. Never owned one...but I have since found out their C/S is fairly crappy. So, I would go dell because if I have an issue I cannot resolve myself, I can have a technician come to my house. The Razer is a fine looking and performing machine though!
     
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    kojack Notebook Virtuoso

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    I am still hoping they "book" some of their xps lineup. I would own one in a heartbeat. I would take the xps over the surface because of support again. I have no MS store close by.
     
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