The problem for me is that, being a non-hardcore driver / racing sim guy, it's difficult to get into Project Cars because the controls with even the slightest twitch will send the car out of control and that's with all assists on and the difficulty set to novice (like I said, not really hardcore into it). Turning was most difficult for me in Project Cars. Forza does dumb it down to where it's managable and fun. It's fine in Forza Horizon 3 because they want you do drift, draft, slide, do burnouts and donuts. Forza Motorsport 7 not so much but for me at least I can work with it.