First Impressions of the T460s from a Longtime Legacy ThinkPad User

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  1. BinkNR

    BinkNR Knock off all that evil

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    Well, after waiting too many years and holding on to 16:10 for as long as I could, my T410 and T400 (I have many other older ThinkPads that are mostly retired too) notebooks are showing their age and need to be replaced. So, I jumped in with both feet on the T460s (20GB RAM and 512GB NVMe) once Lenovo finally shipped a T Series that could do better than FHD (why do only Apple users tend to get the “Retina” fun?). Without further ado, my first impressions after using the machine for 30 minutes:
    1. The notebook is light weight. Really light weight. Coming from a T410 as my daily driver with the 9-cell battery, the T460s is a feather.
    2. Build quality is nice. Not Surface Book nice, but nice (I spent an hour with the Surface Book at the local Microsoft store before buying this).
    3. 16:9 still sucks. There’s a reason I kept my 16:10 for as long as I have. Why does Apple have the market on 16:10 and why is everyone else bent on producing notebook screens that are optimized for watching videos?!? I need to get actual work done.
    4. The materials are solid and FAR nicer than the creaky cheap plastic on my T4*0.
    5. The top does not have the soft rubberized feel that all my other ThinkPads have. Oh well.
    6. The screen is nice. Not Surface Book nice, but nice.
    7. This thing is fast. Really fast. Yay SSD, but I assume most people with SSDs already know this.
    8. The keyboard is not as good as the one on the ThinkPad’s of yore—there is VERY little travel—but we all already know this too.
    9. Coming from notebooks that have a constant low hum from the HDD spinning, this thing is silent. Really silent.
    10. All the little green LED lights that I’ve gotten used to over the years are gone. Gone. No wireless, Bluetooth, Caps Lock, drive access, battery, plugged in and etcetera. They’re all gone. While not a requirement, I got used to this little HUD over the years and I’m sad to see it go. A cost cutting measure I guess.
    11. Lenovo used to have all the required drivers and related in C:\Drivers—not anymore. While not a big deal, now when you do a clean install you have to re-download everything you need.
    That’s all for now—perhaps I’ll update the thread later.
     
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  2. lindros2

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    I just took delivery of a custom-build T460s (i7/20GB/512GB). Previously I had a work T450 (cheapo model) and before that an X230.

    I directly came from my personal MacBook Pro (2011), and agree with a ton of what you've said (just about everything).

    My one concern right now is the battery life (especially the i7). It's not looking good, and there is no ability to upgrade to a larger battery...

    Also the early versions (like ours) don't have WiGig.
     
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  3. lordnikon

    lordnikon Notebook Evangelist

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    I'm not a fan of the new keyboard layout, but I do find it to be better than the old keyboards in terms of tactile feel and a lot less flex. I have a T440s but I'm not sure if the new T460s has the same keyboard?
     
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    T460s keyboard is very similar, but not the same. Its an enhanced version of the T440s keyboard.
     
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    lordnikon Notebook Evangelist

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    What do you mean by enhanced version?
     
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    There are some changes, a CapsLock LED indicator in the CapsLock key has been added, the FNLock LED has been moved to the Esc key. The printing of the F-keys is slightly larger for improved readability. Possibly there are also some changes to the texture of the keys themselfs, and the T460s keyboards are made by Chicony and Darfon, not Chicony and LiteOn like the T450s keyboards. T460s keyboards are not compatible with T440s/T450s keyboards.
     
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    @BinkNR - Can you comment on the battery life? The first complaint about mediocre battery life has surfaced on the Lenovo forums.
     
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    I cannot say at this time. I have not installed all my programs and related on the notebook yet, so it's not my daily driver and I can't compare it to my usual usage. While I'll comment on battery life when I feel more comfortable to do so, I also find battery life very subjective and based on one's specific usage, so I wouldn't take anyone's generic comments on this too seriously.
     
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    things that jumped out at me:
    -only 4gb onboard ram stick size
    -no hot-swappable or expandable battery
    -no hard drive slot
    -2560×1440 ...why?
    -no UHS-II support on SD reader (i believe)


    positives:
    -NVMe
    -930m

    the t460p specs left a much more favorable impression on me
     
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