Firestrike graphics vs passmark? Which is more accurate?

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  1. hertzian56

    hertzian56 Notebook Deity

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    Hi I was just curious if anyone has info on how reliable fsg and psm are? What I mean is, ok specifically in fsg the 970m is at like 7300 and the 980m is at around 8000 and passmark it's 4224 vs 5954. That's a pretty big discrepancy between the two right? I'd throw unigine in there but I've yet to find any list of median scores by them for comparison.

    Trying to decide between a 980m or 970m for my dell m6700 3940xm. The 980m is around 70 bucks more and obv 100w+ versus the 970m's 80w which seems to suggest that I could overclock the 970m if I wanted to pretty easily up to 980m stock performance(and find an elusive unlocked vbios). 980m OC would be obv pretty hot to OC. I've got the overhead I think with an oem 240w psu. I'm only at 1080p. Seems like if fsg is the more trustworthy then it wouldn't be worth the extra money for the 980m.
     
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    Felix_Argyle Notebook Consultant

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    Use real games as benchmark. Unless you're not interested in playing any ;-)
     
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    hertzian56 Notebook Deity

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    That's kinda useless if you don't have 2 of the same laptops with two different cards though. The synthetics are there for a reason, to get an idea across different systems of what a graphics card will perform at. But yeah ofc I can just lookup the yt stuff.
     
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    As a followup I guess I was concerned about the FSG ratings between a 970m and 980m, the 970m was 7200 and the 980m was a 7900 which makes no sense, kinda like the "adjusted" passmark ratings which make no sense, when compared to the raw scores they post in most cases. I'm assuming bc they either use the median and many people seem to have badly under performing systems or they have some other statistical formula that doesn't work too well.

    I see lately that FSG top cards has actually corrected this with a 980m at 9800 and a 970m at 7500 which makes more sense and is in the actual range I got on both cards. I was trying to decide between them when I first posted this thread. Notebookcheck has accurate ratings as an alt reference.

    https://benchmarks.ul.com/compare/b...RE&reverseOrder=true&types=MOBILE&minRating=0
     
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    MahmoudDewy Gaming Laptops Master Race!

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    The non-SLI FSG score of each of my 980ms undervolted and running super cool at 1.2 GHz is around 11k.

    Where did you get that 8000 figure?

    In 3Dmark every run counts in the database and in turn affects the median so let's say you have a performance issue with your card and you run 3Dmark to check it, bam that goes into the database as a run.

    Don't use 3Dmark median at all in getting accurate performance information of a GPU.
     
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    The 7900 was on the link I dropped above until about 2 weeks ago for the 980m, as I said they updated it to 9800. That was kinda the point of the original post. It was perplexing to me since it was only a few hundred points above the 970m at that time, which makes no sense, it's supposed to be 25-30% higher than the 970m.

    I don't use the median I'm assuming FSG/UL uses it, there's no way for me to use it anyways as I only have my card to use not other cards and they don't post the last 5 raw scores like passmark does, which you could get a median between 5 scores. My stock 980m is at 9300. The 970m I had in here recently was 7200 stock and 7800 w the slight msi oc within range of the current fsg score of 7450 for the 970m. You must have an unlocked vbios to get that 11k I would think.
     
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    MahmoudDewy Gaming Laptops Master Race!

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    I have my own vBios, that I tuned myself to fit my cards.

    Actually one of my cards has all 6 MOSFETs and can be pushed much further but for the two cards to perform well in SLI I had to make some compromises. :(

    The 980ms in my opinion have much better potential than their weaker siblings the 970ms.
     
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    Wow 980m sli sounds pretty sick setup. Yeah I'm vanilla except for the min nvidia allows +135core and I have +200 memory, haven't done a fsg test on it like that yet I'd imagine like +500 points or so to around 9800. I had a quadro k4000m that I had oc'd using an unlocked svl7 vbios that was 64% higher fsg score from stock lol, nvidia really gimped those things and it was a 100w card. The little graph that fsg gives you with similar systems had my rating WAY over to the right/high than all the other k4000m's it was awesome! Don't think there's that much room with a 980m it's not gimped too bad lol
     
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    For 70 more I'd take the 980m.

    *Full disclosue, I have a 980m 8GB ...and will until the RTX 4000 series...

    **Full disclosue, ...unless my local microcenter has a stupid good deal on something with the 3000 series.
     
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    JRE84 Notebook Virtuoso

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    980m has had crazy longevity and will probably be great for gaming for another couple years, I envy the people who bought a 980m laptop 3 years ago
     
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