Few questions about thermal pastes... (maxtor, thermalright...syy)

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  1. RomanQuadra

    RomanQuadra Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hello Masters Of Pasting!

    I wonder,

    1. Does SYY is basically equal quality and performance to TFX?
    2. Does Iceberg Thermal FUZEIce Plus equals to CTG9.... basically renamed Maxtor CTG9?
    3. YT Blogger said CTG9 as good or even beats Team Grizlly Krynout, so means, Iceberg is as good as Krynout/

    I did pasting of Gelid GC extreme but I am planning in 6 months or so, repaste my ASUS G513QY again both CPU/GPU, and I wonder from SYY/Fuze which one will perform better?

    Amazon had good deals so I grabbed both, cant hurt... always can use in future:
    https://i.imgur.com/GaAZiNo.png

    (The cooling chamber on this laptop isnt very well pressure mounting)

    Thank you!
     
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    Nice find on the SYY 8. Will save it for a later purchase
     
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    I got sick of pasting and finally switched the laptop to these https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08BL3SCWH

    Temps are fine and no more issues like pump out, dried, or losing effectiveness. I've been using them on my server build for a couple of years now and haven't had any issues with them and decided to add them to the laptop as well.

    I've been running them on the laptop for a few weeks now and things are consistent. In performance mode idle temps ~50C CPU / GPU and under full load ~80C CPU / GPU. If I bump down the system to silent mode they drop to about 40C idle / 60C load. On the server rebuild with12700K / air cooler they keep things icy @ 75F / load 100F w/ idles around 5F above ambient.
     
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    RomanQuadra Notebook Enthusiast

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    How SYY compared to Thermal FUZEIce Plus? if you know?

    And is it true:
    1. Does SYY is basically equal quality and performance to TFX?
    2. Does Iceberg Thermal FUZEIce Plus equals to CTG9.... basically renamed Maxtor CTG9?

    Maybe I can cancel the worst one.... or keep both and use one for CPU and one for GPU (both on same board in my laptop, ASUS G513QY).
     
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    How temps of this pads compared to high quality/high performance paste?
     
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    @RomanQuadra

    There's no apples to apples comparison even between identical machines. It's all a bit subjective as no one person uses a device the same way.

    There are pros though to using the pads over paste and that's a one and done approach. Not having to deal with it ever again for the life of the device.

    I gave you the temps I'm seeing above w/ a 9750H / GTX1650 on the laptop side. I can say the pads are as good or better than the pastes I've used in the past but, I haven't been down the rabbit hole of trying dozens of them for that sub 30C temps @ idle. Be realistic about the situation and aim for consistency vs ice cold / wide fluctuations in temps between tasks. The more stable your temps are the longer the components will last.
     
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    Rooter1234 Notebook Consultant

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    1. SYY-157 is a tiny bit worse or the same when it comes to the initial performance (in my tests at least). Longevity can be a different story, there are some not so great longevity reports from TFX. SYY-157 is a lot easier to handle (spreading) and cheaper.
    2. To my knowledge they are not the same (I have FuzeIce Plus, Maxtor CTG8 and Xynetic CTG8+CTG9 which I believe is a rebranded Maxtor)
    3. CTG9 is a thicker paste than Kryonaut, in some cases it can be better. On a notebook I wouldn't use Kryonaut.
     
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    RomanQuadra Notebook Enthusiast

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    Dear Rooter,

    I actually DMed you and then saw your response here, hence sorry if any of my questions being duplicate and the inconvenience it may have caused to you.

    May I ask, in your humble expert opinion, SYY157 / FuzeIce Plus, would offer better results in laptop than the currently used Gelid GC Extreme, if pasted properly?

    Secondly, SYY157 / FuzeIce Plus --> in performance/longevity ratio, any assumptions here? I know you might not have had a chance to test too long.

    Maybe due to due sizes, you would suggest use one for GPU and other one for CPU...

    Thank you!
     
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    Rooter1234 Notebook Consultant

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    Here is my test between Gelid GC Extreme and SYY-157: http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...and-liquid-metal.806840/page-77#post-11120831

    SYY-157 is quite a bit better. There are two different Gelid GC Extreme versions and even the better one is worse. Because the Gelid paste is not that thick it struggles, my laptop prefer thicker pastes. I cannot guarentee if it's the same for you though and I don't know if you have the better or worse Gelid GC Extreme, you can only try for yourself.

    About SYY-157 and FuzeIce Plus they offer basically the same performance. In most my tests FuzeIce Plus is like 0.5 degrees better in average but this is nothing, both are great. I cannot say anything about longevity.
     
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    You are incredible, so clearly good enough reasons to move from Gelid,

    Next question: About SYY-157 and FuzeIce Plus,

    1. If FuzeIce Plus better even by 0.5c than SYY157, perhaps Fuze has other reasons to be used?
    maybe die size matters? for instance SYY could be better on smaller die and Fuze larger? or other way around? As ASUS G513QY has RX6800M and Ryzen 5900HX, the one die much smaller than other.

    2. If you had to judge from your visual aspects from SYY and Iceberg which one you assume will last longer and handle better to avoid pumpout/push-out situations in laptop? only if you can tell, no stress.

    Also, SYY sales support told me this:
    "Previously, in order to ensure the thermal conductivity of the product, we used thicker raw materials than other products, but we received some feedback that it was difficult to apply. Now that we have improved the raw materials, it will be easier to apply than before. Our products are stored in vacuum tubes, and a very small part of them will become dry due to the air entering. In any case, you can contact us, we will refund you and reissue new products, you can buy with confidence. Our new formula products have all arrived at the Amazon warehouse, and are delivered by Amazon, cannot decide which one they deliver."

    1. I hope new formula is the one I will get.
    2. You know if you tried the new formula or the older one?

    Thanks!
     
    Last edited: Dec 14, 2021
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