Feedback to Clevo R&D Team: What's missing or broken in your Skylake laptops?

Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Mr. Fox, Oct 29, 2016.

  1. woodzstack

    woodzstack Company Representative

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    Ah so it's a bios thing again ?
     
  2. Mr. Fox

    Mr. Fox Undefiled BGA-Hating Elitist

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    Yeah, just crappy cancer firmware. Most laptops have this issue. NONE OF THEM SHOULD... not even the BGA garbage should.

    The MSI 16L13 has the same problem (not 480W, but same in principle) with the new EC versions. Anything newer than EC 111 on my Tornado F5 is junk due to CPU TDP throttling.

    With a machine like the P870 this is inexcusable and unforgivable. It's purchased by performance enthusiasts and elitists specifically because it is not a castrated turdbook, and it should not have ANY turdbook character traits to it.
     
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    to upgrade properly you need to do 2 things otherwise it would fail:

    1) revert all settings that any tool like O&OShutUp10 or the likes did to default
    2) uninstall your AV
     
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    ooooooooops, sorry man, didn't mean it that way, now it looks like I bought a laptop from your with a flimsy 15 inch keyboard :D sorry :rolleyes:
     
  5. Mr. Fox

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    There is probably a better thread for this discussion since it is not an area of opportunity for Clevo. I already gave up on Creators Abortion and went back to W10 Enterprise 2016 LTSB. You're not missing anything special.
     
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    Yes





    Well said






    Same here
    Ratiborus + W10 Enterprise <3
     
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    It sounds like it's only going to get worse over the years. The DM3 might be my last high performance laptop at this rate. Might need to go back to desktops :p

    I never tested this, but was 480W enough for 4.8Ghz overclock and slight +120/300 on GPUs using stock firmware? Does it shut down the laptop or just throttle?
     
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    I think so. I hardly used the stock firmware. I am not aware of the DM3 ever shutting down. I haven't heard of that or experienced it myself.
     
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    It depends on the load. If the cooling is properly well-done and you actually stress the system (let's say Witcher 3 Novigrad at 1440p 120-144fps (the former achieveable on this machine via the 1440p panel) or Deus Ex Mankind Divided or ME Andromeda, all of which pull tons of resources from all of the system?) then you probably will find the answer to be "no". When games are out in a year that stress a couple 1080s decently and hit the CPU hard (regardless of the GPU) then what'd happen?

    Even @Mobius 1 tried the Overwatch main menu test like I did. At 1080p I sucked over 400w constantly; undervolted 4.4GHz. At 1440p on stock KM1 firmware he did not hit the FPS limit, and his GPUs went full bore and he hit a power limit. Also with undervolted CPU. Also the more stuff the PC has to power the worse it is; usb mice/headset/controller, wifi card (I was on ethernet so I probably drew slightly less), a second monitor at home, etc would all contribute in a small way to the max power draw allowed

    Sent from my OnePlus 1 using a coconut
     
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    Can confirm.
     
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