Fan speed control @ HP EliteBook 2530p

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  1. thlickish

    thlickish Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi there! :)

    Today I got my HP EliteBook 2530p in "FU432EA" configuration. It was important for me to have an optical drive, so i chose the configuration with the 120 GB 1,8" HDD.

    The 2530p looks great so far and performs pretty well... If there weren't the extremely annoying noises coming from the notebook. :mad:

    The HDD with its 5400 rpm (it's a Samsung HS122JF, very slow btw, not really faster than 4200 rpm drives) makes a clearly audible, very high frequency noise and turns on/off every 30-60 seconds resulting in clicking sounds. I can live with that for the moment, because I'll upgrade to some SSD in the near future.

    But the second annoyance is the fan inside the laptop. Even when idling in windows with temps below 50 °C the fan turns on every few moments. Unfortunately I haven't been able to control the system fan or even read the actual speed. I tried Notebook Hardware Control, SpeedFan and HWMon, but neither of them reported me anything about the fan. I tried undervolting the CPU with RMClock (which doesn't really support the new Penryn CPUs) and got a few degrees less, but this wasn't enough to keep the fan quiet. In the BIOS there are no options regarding the fan, only some "keep fan always running on AC power", which I disabled.

    So is there any software out there that could fix this? There must be a way to control the fan over ACPI or something... Any help with this would be highly appreciated!

    Thanks!
     
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    HerrKaputt Elite Notebook User

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    Try I8kfanGUI, maybe that'll work.
     
  3. thlickish

    thlickish Notebook Enthusiast

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    Nope, no success. :(
    I8kfanGUI shows only the CPU temp, but no fan speed and I can't change anything. But thanks for the idea.

    Is there a way to find out if the fan is software-controllable in general? Perhaps the thermal zones are fixed in the BIOS some way and there's just no way to alter those values. This would be a reason for me to send the laptop right back to HP, because it's really way too expensive for being THAT loud...
     
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    zyber sniper Notebook Consultant

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    Are you sure you're not hearing the infamous Core 2 Duo CPU whine?
     
  5. thlickish

    thlickish Notebook Enthusiast

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    Yeah, I'm 100% sure. When I'm stressing the CPU the fan gets even louder, I think there are 4 or 5 different speed stages. When the CPU is on heavy load it gets hot and requires more cooling, I know that this is normal...

    But that's not the point. I just want this thing to be quiet while idling or performing simple tasks like chatting or surfing, when the CPU usage is below 20% on low frequency. When I transcode videos or play some game then I'm okay with it to get loud. But when I'm sitting in the library to study, for example, the notebook just can't be that noisy.

    The CPU whine is also there, but it is very quiet and almost not to hear in comparison to fan and hdd. If I get those quiet somehow this could be my next problem... ;)
     
  6. HI DesertNM

    HI DesertNM Notebook Deity

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    Try putting vista in power saver mode. Even when mines plugged in the fan seems to run less often on my dv6500t on powersaver mode. I really don't notice much of a performance drop and the average temps are lower.
     
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    thlickish Notebook Enthusiast

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    Yeah, I can do that, just give me some time. =)

    That was one of the first things I've done, of course. The temps are a little lower than with HP optimized profile, but still not low enough to keep the fan quiet.
     
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    HI DesertNM Notebook Deity

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    You might try a different bios.. which generally controls the fan management. In my case, the new nvidia driver drastically changed my fan for the worse.. go figure. Usually its the bios that controls fan management.

    Sounds like you have way too much going on for a new notebook.. I strongly advise sending back for refund and starting over. Use your first 30 days to get as they say " a good one".
     
  9. zyber sniper

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    Nvidia has had issues with overheating GPUs that has caused display problems so I bet your driver drastically increase fan speed to reduce the possibility of overheating. The FU432EA config of his/her 2530p does not contain "discrete graphics" like your notebook, meaning the fan going berserk is most probably not a GPU related issue, but with the CPU.

    I'd say to try to get an exchange to see if the second 2530p has the same issue. HP is known to poorly install heatsinks and thermal paste in some cases causing a new notebook to overheat, not to mention most HP notebooks have very poor thermal management designs in the first place. 50 degrees seems a bit hot for a low voltage processor as I have a P8600 Duo Core that stays at around the 40 degrees range while idling at a room temperature of around 25 degrees celcius.

    Concerning your HDD, have you checked the power management settings so that HDD power saving features are turned off? A 5400rpm drive should not make a lot of noise; I have a 7200rpm drive in my 8530p and its really quiet. Also, clicking is never a good sign for HDD, since the drive is mechanical, clicking usually indicates that something moving inside is hitting against another object.
     
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    thlickish Notebook Enthusiast

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    @nando4

    Here are the benchmarks. I also tested the drive with HD Tune, because Atto doesn't check the access time, which is as far as I know more important for a system drive than just the transfer rates.

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    But which BIOS Version to use and where to get it? The HP download sites only have the two latest updates. And those didn't fix any issues related to the fan. I like the idea of a tool to access the fan speed control directly from windows much more... please someone tell me that there is such a nice little piece of software out there. :D

    I don't know if an exchange of the notebook would solve my problems. There are a few reviews of it out there and most of them mention that the fan is not very quiet. I just didn't imagine that it would bother me that much, perhaps I'm more sensible to noise than I thought.

    Well, I'm not sure which temperature the CPU actually has. Programs that read the values directly from the CPU report other temperatures than programs that read the values from ACPI. HWMonitor shows both, you can see in the picture below that there's a huge difference. The screenshot shows the temps while idling, the fan switches on/off every minute an the temps change only between 2-4°.

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    Yes, I've set the HDD turn off option to 20 minutes when on AC power. But I can hear that it turns off after a few moments when there is no activity. I think I could look for some tool where you can change the HDD-internal settings like acoustic management etc. and see if that works, but as I said before, the hard drive is not my concern, because this problem will solve itself once I buy a SSD. :)
     
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