EVOC P650RS-G 15.6" Custom Built Gaming Laptop w/ nVIDIA GTX 1070 w/ G-Sync

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  1. T.V.Rousselle

    T.V.Rousselle Newbie

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    I'm wanting to purchase a new laptop but I've been out of the 'tech' field for so long that I no longer know the best options for what I want.

    I'm a Research Pathologist which means I need to run statistical software; however, I also specialize in 3D reconstructive design so I'll need to run 3D design software such as Maya, ZBrush, Blender, etc. I know these programs utilize the system in different ways - ex. ZBrush is purely a CPU based engine while Maya relies heavily on the GPU - but I'm wanting a system that can handle either.

    This is straight forward - good Graphics card and good CPU. Now the hard part, as a research pathologist, 50% of my day is spent within the classroom or laboratory where heavy noise would cause distractions and power outputs are limited. Therefore, I need a system which delivers the CPU/GPU-based power necessary for my design and statistical software but still remains relatively quiet and can hold a charge.

    This sounds like an impossibility; however, is it possible to reduce the system's specs in order to conserve battery and decrease noise output. In the classroom, the general office software and a few small, non-demanding applications are used so the CPU/GPU power isn't needed in this area. Even if it is possible to reduce specs, would it reduce the noise output to a level that is non-distracting and increase battery to ~5hrs.

    I know the quick and easy answer: buy two systems - a piece of crap for the classroom and a beast for the office; but, I would like it to remain singular if possible.


    I built a machine through HIDevolution. I'm pretty certain it will handle the software I need to run but I don't believe it will be quiet or have the battery life I need. The specs are as follows:

    LCD Panel *
    • 15.6" 4K QFHD (3840x2160) Samsung PLS LED Backlit Antiglare Matte Type Display w/ NVIDIA G-Sync Technology +$100.00
    Video Card *
    • nVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 w/ 8GB GDDR5 - NVIDIA G-Sync Enabled w/ Unlocked Prema vBIOS - Latest Updated Version once available - Contact us for details
    Prema BIOS *
    • Prema Custom BIOS - Latest Updated Version once available - Contact us for details
    Processor *
    • 6th Generation Intel Core i7-6820HK Quad Core Processor, 2.7GHz (Max Turbo Frequency 3.6GHz), 8MB Smart Cache +$125.00
    Thermal Paste *
    • Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra 100% Metal Thermal Interface on CPU, IC Diamond on GPU - BEST PERFORMANCE+$30.00
    Memory *
    • 16GB (1 x 16GB) G.SKILL Ripjaws Series DDR4/2800MHz +$110.00
    RAID Options *
    • no RAID (1st drive as primary boot drive, 2nd drive as storage drive)
    M.2 PCIe NVMe or SATA SSD Slot 1 *
    • Samsung 950 Pro 256GB M.2PCIe 3.0 x4 NVMe 3D-VNAND SSD - Up to 2,200 MB/s Read-900 MB/s Write+$210.00
    M.2 SSD Slot 2 (supports M.2 SATA - does NOT support M.2 PCIe SSD) *
    • 500GB Samsung 850 EVO (3D VNAND TECH) M.2 SATA SSD +$192.00
    1st 2.5" HDD/SSD Bay *
    • Empty HDD bay (with caddy/adapter) -$30.00
    2nd 2.5" SSD Bay *
    • Empty HDD bay (with caddy/adapter)
    External Optical Drive
    • External Bluray read/write DVDRW drive +$85.00
    Wireless Cards *
    • Intel® Wireless-AC 8260 802.11 ac/a/b/g/n 2x2 NGFF w/ Bluetooth 4.2 +$20.00
    Operating System *
    • Genuine Windows® 10 Pro, 64bit, English +$130.00
    Operating System Reinstallation Media
    • OS Reinstallation + Drivers USB Flash Drive +$25.00
    Power Adapter *
    • Full Range 230W AC Adapter AC-in 100~240V, 50~60Hz
    Internal Battery *
    • 1 x 4 cell battery - 60Wh (Internal)

    Is there any suggests that you all could give as how to get performance without sacrificing battery or serenity ?
     
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    mishkasm Notebook Consultant

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    The 4K display will drain battery a lot even when not running anything demanding. Unless you really need it the 1080p may be better.

    The 6820 is also more power-hungry than the 6700, and unless you are going to overclock it doesn't actually give you much more performance as I understand.

    Obviously the 1070 takes more power and generates more heat than the 1060, but that really depends on which one you need. If you can do everything you need to with the 1060 you will buy yourself more battery life and less noise. Otherwise not much of a choice and go with the 1070.

    Other things should not matter much, if at all.
     
  3. Godfather Ezio

    Godfather Ezio Notebook Enthusiast

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    Gtx 1060 and fhd screen will be much more suitable for your purpose as @mishkasm said. You can also consider the upcoming 'Razer Blade Stealth and Core Combo' or Razer Blade with GTX 1060.
    They will give you much better battery life.
    If you want real performance then you should definitely consider Clevo P750DM-2(G) with i7 6700k, the best consumer processor in market. It is also upgradable.

    One more advice, do not buy 1x16 G.B. ram. Aways get dual channel ram, i.e. 2xY G.B. (Y=4,8,16,32 etc)
     
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    mishkasm Notebook Consultant

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    That's a good idea. In general I dislike eGPUs, but this may be a situation where an eGPU works well. I think the Razer Core is still the best one around, but it may be worth seeing if anything else is available soon.
     
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    Godfather Ezio Notebook Enthusiast

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    I made you this on Xotic PC:

    SAGER NP9152 (CLEVO P750DM2) ETA: 08/30/2016

    Thermal Cooling1 x IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU (Cools better than all Compounds) $35.00

    Warranty1 x 3 Year Parts & LIFETIME Ltd Labor Warranty & Lifetime Tech Support w/ LCD Accidental Damage Protection for Sager Machines$345.00

    Operating System1 x Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit Edition Preinstalled (Clean Install | Drivers Only | No Bloatware) $120.00

    Shipping Warranties / Packaging1 x 3 Year - Two Way Ground Shipping Coverage for Sager Warranty Repairs (Canada) (Must be Combined with Sager 3 Year Parts & LIFETIME Ltd Labor Warranty) $70.00

    Operating System Options1 x Windows 10 64-Bit Edition USB Recovery Media $25.00

    1 x Yes, Redline Boost My Operating System (Operating System Required) (XPC Service - requires shipment to XOTIC PC)$55.00

    Display Options1 x XOTIC PC Professional Monitor Color Calibration (Operating System is required) (XPC Service - requires shipment to XOTIC PC)$49.00

    Processor1 x 6th Generation Intel Skylake i7-6700K (4.0GHz - 4.2GHz, 8MB Intel Smart Cache) $50.00

    Battery/Power/Dock Accessories1 x 330W AC Adapter - Upgrade [Replaces stock power supply]$75.00

    Ram1 x 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 2400MHz Dual Channel Memory $65.00

    M.2 Slot 11 x 500GB Samsung 850 EVO M.2 SSD $210.00

    Wireless Networking / Bluetooth1 x Intel Dual Band AC 8260 802.11 A/AC/B/G/N 2.4/5.0GHz + Bluetooth 4.0 [M.2 Chip] $15.00

    $2,843.00
     
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    saturnotaku Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    If you're not gaming, I would probably steer you away from Clevo and into a workstation-class notebook, such as a Dell Precision. Getting one of those with an NVIDIA Quadro or AMD FirePro GPU will be much more capable for your 3D rendering than the consumer-class GeForce or Radeon. Plus, you'll also have the benefit of available on-site, next-business-day support should something go wrong.
     
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    mishkasm Notebook Consultant

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    Wouldn't the P750 be a lot more expensive than the P650 he originally wanted? Again, depends on what is needed, but pretty sure you could knock $1,000 off of that price by going with the P650-S.
     
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    Is it the Clevo P650? Anyways we can only find out if the op tells the price of his configuration. Battery life will be less but will be better than 1070 and 4k combo and he could also throw in a spare battery.
     
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    If you have to have the absolute best performance, it will cost you both a good amount of money and it will be fairly noisy, and have a fairly poor battery life.
     
  10. T.V.Rousselle

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    Godfather Ezio / Mishkasm: it is the P650RS-G - Price of configuration through HIDevolution is $2,811.00.

    I didn't think about the 4k pulling more battery life than the FHD. I don't know why, It's quite obvious now that it's pointed out. I don't believe it is necessary for what I do so that should save battery as well as money.

    The 1x16GB was chosen so that I would be able to add another 16 GB later. As of now, all my programs run well with 16 GB but AutoDesk's Inventor software, which I will have to use eventually, requires 24 GB to run smoothly. But with your suggestion, I do think it might be best for me to switch to dual channel and then simply upgrade later.

    The 1060 isn't an option with the HIDevolution configuration I am using. I do believe it would work but I'll have to contact the sales team to see if that can be added. Maya is the only software that I currently use which requires a premium GPU, besides the rendering software but that can be outsourced. Is anyone familiar with Maya or 3DsMax who could give me a suggestion on a GPU suitable for high-poly 3D reconstructions?

    Godfather Ezio: that machine you built looks wonderful from first glance. I've never used XoticPC before but it basically has the same configuration as my build except that it utilizes a much better CPU. Did you happen to notice the GPU on the computer you specified?
     
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