Dragon Center 2.0 (What is the problem?)

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Does Dragon Center negatively impact performance?

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  1. Doc Fox

    Doc Fox Notebook Geek

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    There seems to be contradictory information about the Dragon Center and every thread about it in the forum seems outdated.

    Concerns: It has been mentioned on many threads that this softwares interferes with undervolt settings or applies an overvolt, or causes inconsistent performance.
    On the other hand many people claim that they experienced no performance difference with this software, and it is a good tool to have.

    What is the bottom line on this? What does this software do to your computer?


    The other question is, although the Dragon Center allows you to overclock your GPU, afterburner has the option to set custom voltage curves which gives you more control. Both software seem to run simultaneously without issues, but which one is in control of the GPU?
     
  2. hacktrix2006

    hacktrix2006 Hold My Vodka, I going to kill my GPU

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    Dragon Center has been know to mess with overclocks and undervolts with UTX and Throttlestop as it changes values in the system bios, also MSI Afterburner gets messed with when dealing with GPU overclocks using Dragon center at the same time. Not only that there is some bloat inside the installer for dragon center as well.

    It's one of them things that if you want to volt curve your GPU or even overclock/undervolt it's best to uninstall dragon center. This is from personal experience too.

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  3. ryzeki

    ryzeki Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    Dragon Center interferes with Throttlestop, MSI Afterburner etc because you can also set clocks, and it writes values to BIOS (or used to). So if you set up your MSI Afterburner clocks and your Throttlestop settings, when rebooting, Dragon Center can overwrite them, effectively undoing them.

    I believe it also keeps an overvolt on the CPU but I am not sure.

    Regardless of all of this, it is not recommended to run multiple programs that do the same thing. Meaning, don't run multiple overclocking tools, each one overclocking differently/settings. The best idea would be to use only one, whichever is best for you. I personally don't use it, so I uninstalled it.

    Dragon Center is a good all around software, but it lacks customization that other software provide. and in the case of undervolting, I prefer going directly with BIOS once you have the correct values.
     
  4. Porter

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    I really like Throttlestop and Afterburner and am comfortable using them, but I wish I could use Dragon Center and just not have it mess with just CPU/GPU voltage or clocking. I'd like the fan profiles and other things built into it I guess. Oh well.
     
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    The biggest problem with the Dragon Center is once you reboot, it will reset whatever voltage and VR Current limits you have set either in the BIOS or XTU back to default. As we know, the default VR Current limit that MSI sets in the BIOS is not enough and causes CPU Throttling so one needs to up the VR Current limit to prevent this but Dragon Center keeps resetting it back to default.
     
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    ryzeki Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    I remember with my GT73 when it first happened, it drove me nuts. I was testing with Intel XTU, Throsttlestop and I had dragon center running on the background, and I didn't know what was causing the issue at first.
     
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    hacktrix2006 Hold My Vodka, I going to kill my GPU

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    Also for them that are sticking with Dragon Center there is an issue where its currently crashing, due to the updater program trying to download something and killing the install.

    If you have Dragon Center not loading up, uninstall it then disconnect from the internet, reinstall the application and head to the application install directory and rename the update executable to something else then reconnect to the internet, i have been dealing with this on Reddit pages all day today.
     
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  8. Porter

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    Since I don't use XTU nor BIOS tweaks, do you think I could get by with dragon center, plus using TS for undervolt? I'm itching to try it and see but don't want to create new problems for myself. Since I haven't voted (since I don't know) I can't see results of the poll in this thread either to see what folks are thinking about performance.
     
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    you certainly can. Would I? Never
     
  10. Doc Fox

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    I installed dragon center and stopped it from running with the program 'autoruns'. This was I have access to stuff like the usb leds and battery settings. It runs perfectly fine with throttlestop, but bypasses MSI afterburner by applying its own profile. (This is the only thing that I dont like about it)

    If you want access to fan curves, you can use MSI Silent Option app. It works perfectly fine on the GE75, and I even perfer it. Technicly you really dont need Dragon Center.
     
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