Do games support Multiple graphics settings, or is it placebo

Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by JRE84, Jan 2, 2018.

  1. thegreatsquare

    thegreatsquare Notebook Deity

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    PC gaming requirements are tied to consoles generationally. You just need to be a good clip north of the equivalent "to metal" GPU optimization. I probably didn't word that right, but I mean ...say, the PS4's quazi-HD 7870 is equal to a HD7970 after console optimization [or so] and if your GPU is somewhat better than that 7970, you should run that gen's console ports decently. I have the 980m 8GB and I'm sailing along well enough. Even the HD 7970 itself still does the job and the numbers would be better if they tweaked instead of using the presets:




    I say this because the real next gen [...not the XB1x/PS4 Pro mid-gen refresh for 4k] will be another big jump in CPU/GPU requirements. You don't need to go all out. The closer to a new console gen, the shorter the GPU life [GTX 880m/HD 8970m-R9 m290x buyers can probably attest to this]. Look at the GTX 1070 benchmarks. [The Evil Within 2's numbers are what a CPU bottleneck looks like.]

    https://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-1070-Laptop.169549.0.html

    The smarter purchase would be to pick up a GTX 2060 laptop or something with a 1070 when they're being cleared out because now is the time you are ~4 years out from new consoles.

    ...or if you live near a Microcenter, these now:

    http://www.microcenter.com/product/486481/1510_156_Gaming_Laptop_Computer_-_Black?ob=1
    http://www.microcenter.com/product/486482/1710_173_Gaming_Laptop_Computer_-_Black

    [edit] Getting a laptop ~2yrs from now would mean looking for a 3050/Ti to run out the generation, you'll want to keep it under $1k as much as possible.
     
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  2. franzerich

    franzerich Notebook Evangelist

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    Yeah, I agree with OP. It feels more like a placebo.

    The most significant differences are:
    - Texture quality (textures on low blurred)
    - Shadow quality (shadows on low disabled)

    But other than that the differences are only recognizable if you search for it. It's almost like you need that extra CPU/GPU power only for playing in 4K or Virtual Reality.
     
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  3. JRE84

    JRE84 Notebook Consultant

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    yeah I think ill go for a 1070 or 2070...thanks so much for the detailed explanation, you are one smart man.

    Franzerich: I agree I play crysis 3 alot and I just set textures to very high and everything on low, don't see the need to run veryhigh as it all looks the same no matter what I do.

    so in short

    1) set textures to ultra
    2) set shadows to medium
    3) set everything else to low and use some AA
    4) Just enjoy the game

    LoL ill be honest my thread seems like a troll, But im serious when I say I have difficulties noticing the difference between medium and ultra, and have no idea why a microscopic bump in image quality results in framerate dropping in half, developers need to smarten up and make the options worth selecting.
     
  4. Midas Touch

    Midas Touch BGA Loving Enthusiast

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    2070 on laptops? :eek:
     
  5. JRE84

    JRE84 Notebook Consultant

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    yeah not sure what it will be called but its going to be epic. :)
     
  6. Wonkyfinger

    Wonkyfinger Notebook Consultant

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    I have a 1070 laptop, and I cannot tell the difference between high and ultra other than occasional differences in FPS. I can however, almost always see a loss in quality when dropping to medium.
     
  7. JRE84

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    oh wow....just crossed my mind as to why there is no difference between medium/high and ultra.

    They are console ports.

    I just downloaded fallout 4 and checked medium vs ultra...there is no noticeable difference.

    wonkyfinger im not sure how you can say you see a difference between medium and ultra unless your avoiding AAA games that are console ports.

    game developers are not going to make games have exclusive textures and post processing just for pc gamers very often, so it does happen once in a while, its rare. so to say something that is rare is common is kinda trolling..
     
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    https://images.nvidia.com/geforce-c...teractive-comparison-001-ultra-vs-medium.html

    https://images.nvidia.com/geforce-c...teractive-comparison-001-ultra-vs-medium.html

    https://images.nvidia.com/geforce-c...teractive-comparison-002-ultra-vs-medium.html
     
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    Not trolling, just what I see. I do, however, mostly play MMOs.
     
  10. JRE84

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    oh ok yeah...that could explain it....

    thegreatsquare, I dont really see much difference in those pictures...I looked at one, the more distant objects that you would not even be looking at while playing the game have more detail but its so slight i don't think it justifies half the framerate.....what do you guys think
     
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