Do games support Multiple graphics settings, or is it placebo

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  1. JRE84

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    As you can see there is no difference between ultra and low, antialiasing makes somewhat of a differance however. aside from AA is there really a point in running ultra over medium settings in most AAA games..Im thinking of upgrading my Laptop, but the games simply don't need the power, I already run almost all games at 60fps on medium, and Maybe im alone on this one and here. Do you think games are differentiating from low medium ultra, by a small factor I mean it's not like going from 720p to 4k with TVs. 4k represents ultra 720p represents low. 4k is worth it if you enjoy clairity. However low vs ultra in most games means only a negligable bump in visuals unlike what happens with TV resolutions, and im not talking about generational changes or crysis. as obviously games will look better and better with time, until it peaks at photo realistic.


    Anyone else notice how games are less and less dynamically visual. should we be signing a petition or stiring up the industry asking developers to put our money into developing games that push limits..

    and OUT.


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    I could go on for more games and I will

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    Using low quality YouTube footage to compare graphical settings? Come on, mate...
     
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    It varies from game to game. In most cases there is definitely a visual distinction from low and high/ultra. A lot of times Ultra just adds on all the extra effects like bloom, depth of field, vignetting, grass and/or water detail a lot of stuff not really needed. There is a performance hit though which can easily be seen when playing on lower end hardware. Low settings can give you playable results, but just bumping up to Medium or High can make it wholly unplayable. So I like that it gives people with lower end hardware a decent visual perspective that doesn't require a $5000 PC to run.

    I don't know that there needs to be an uproar, I like how it's scalable today, and most recently released games struggle to get manageable frame rates on top end hardware, especially those that are running higher resolutions like 2560x1440 or even 4k. It's really hard to make a game that much different between low settings and high settings considering it's all the same polygons.
     
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    Basically this ... The way Youtube compresses videos makes the comparison off of a Youtube video moot.
     
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    if you read my post you would see were not talking clarity or sharpness.

    I also metioned medium vs ultra. the videos are just an example, obviously low will look worse than ultra to a degree with a few exceptions like crysis 3.

    Just wondering why games on medium look identical to ultra....i'll test out the most demanding game ghost recon wildlands and post comparison pictures of medium vs ultra in a bit. And don'g get me wrong there are a few games that clearly look superior on ultra. :p
     
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    EDIT... ok so theres a pretty big difference between veryhigh and medium.. but thats just one game im still pretty sure most games don't bump up visuals very much from medium to veryhigh.. thoughts?
     
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    Tweaking settings can be very effective. Tweaking was integral to my Asus G73jh lasting most of 5 years.

    http://www.overclock.net/g/a/36947/...layed-2013-retirement/sort/upload_time/page/0

    The Thief screenshots are mostly low-medium ...including low textures. Wolfenstein: TNO, Crysis 3, Witcher 2 & DA:I screenshots also used a mix from low to high, though I don't remember specifics. The Tomb Raider reboot is also heavily tweaked to squeeze in tressfx ...because I had to try.
     
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    thanks for your post thegreatsquare. It just crossed my mind tweaking settings is probably the smartest thing to do vs upgrading hardware. I want my laptop to last another 2 years and I have a pretty good feeling i'll be able to game with low/medium/high mixed settings at 1080p 30fps for 2-3 years....what are your thoughts as you have experience with this. btw I got back into gaming a little bit....sick of benchmarking
     
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    Well my tweaking skills are a bit rusty and I don't know what specs you have, but generally I...

    ...Keep native resolution*.
    ...Try to keep draw distance High if it's noticeable in detail, some AA of any sort and some level of AO.
    ..."Rob Peter to Pay Paul". Meaning drop settings to the lowest acceptable one from the start to have as much room to play with.
    ...cut frivolous post processing effects
    ...Keep in mind towards the end of the console cycle that CPU requirements jump first and it's the CPU that's the issue if you keep lowering graphics and not getting more FPS.

    Last resort tweaks:
    ...Cut FOV 5-10 degrees in FPS
    ...Cut brightness a little, it hides the sins of lower textures.

    *The use of variable resolution in some new games has me thinking that I could get away with 1600x900 if it meant better settings ...or really just running. That's some time off for me.
     
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    i just tweaked the witcher 3...looks like ultra and im getting 47fps.

    i have a 970m...going to upgrade to the 1080s successor and keep it for 4 years.

    i dont mind 30fps on most games and generally even though my gpu is 3 and a half years old it still usually runs games well enough to not have to worry about tinkering..witha few exceptions of course.

    I just downloaded the free to try game SNOW its a new cryengine snowboarding game....actually quite good...fun..

    i run very high and net 32fps average but its consistant...and thats a crytek engine 2018 game so i think ill be ok for 1 more year...depending on how game requirements evolve I might hold back on upgrading and get the 3080..
     
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