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Dell XPS M1330 - nVidia GeForce 8400M GS - Copper Mod

Discussion in 'Dell XPS and Studio XPS' started by sinstoic, Jul 2, 2008.

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  1. Hep!

    Hep! sees beauty in everything

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    Well there you go... now you get a new one. Pray for a non-faulty one.
     
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    beto113 Notebook Consultant

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    yep... i called them now and they there is a technician coming tomorrow to change my motherboard and the heatsink because it looks mine is terrible. just saying... my gpu on power save mode idle is running in 79- 81C

    so i hope tomorrow they bring a working motherboard

    does anyone know how to detect if the new motherboard has the same Nvidia problem??
    or what kind of failure or tests i should run to make sure my motherboard is not defective?

    thx
     
  3. Hep!

    Hep! sees beauty in everything

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    To quote myself...
    Just to clarify, it is very unlikely that a replacement board WON'T be faulty. That's right, if you're getting it fixed, you're probably getting another faulty board. Reason being dell uses refurbished parts for warranty replacements, as they can't sell them in new systems. And how many refurbs do you think they have that were manufactured less than two months ago? Little or none.

    Also to clarify, I'm not convinced that these new boards are even "fixed."
    I believe they may have improved GPU/motherboard solder contacts, but the cooling assembly will not be changed and EVEN IF YOU GET A NEW "FIXED" BOARD, YOU WILL HAVE PROBLEMS WITH YOUR GPU OVERHEATING UNLESS YOU DO THIS MOD.

    For the 1000000th time, I will make it clear - this is a mod to improve the cooling of the M1330 - it is not a mod to fix a faulty GPU.



    The nvidia GPUs failing are not because of high temperatures, this only assists them in dying more quickly.
    They are dying because the solder points between the GPU and motherboard weaken over time with heat cycling meaning the normal warm up and cool down that happens with normal use.
     
  4. azza21

    azza21 Notebook Geek

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    Mate i completely understand your frustration. I am in the same situation, ridiculously high temps on the CPU and GPU. I have had an engineer come round 3 times and replace the board. Yet I am still getting these temp issue's. It is a complete joke. I also paid around £1200 for my notebook. The m1330 is a great notebook it has many qualities but i am getting fed up of the problems it is causing me now, there outwaying the qualities on this noebook and as for the performance of the thing, grrrr. Like you i cannot even play old games properly on it, god I tried to play Age Of Empires 3 the other days on med/low settings and it was still unplayable, RCT 3 is just as bad. I didn't expect crysis at 80fps performance but i expected better then what I've been getting, especially after the reviews i read before i brought it.

    I'm seriously thinking about cutting my losses and selling the bloody thing. If i can get £600 that is :)
     
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    beto113 Notebook Consultant

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    Hey... just had my motherboard changed... and the copper mode done.. i can see already the difference from the last motherboard
    btw the guild are great i though i would have problems but i didnt, it means that its dumb proof!!! :p congrats

    i was trying to install the I8kfanGUI 3.1 on my windows vista 64. when i try to instal the version for 64, the installer tries to install a driver and does not succeed so the installation aborts. Does anyone have the same problem??

    fyi - just after pops up a warning sayingthat driver is not digital signed

    all the best Beto
     
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    It's a known issue... just search I8KfanGUI vista 64 or using unsigned drivers in Vista 64.
     
  7. maraja

    maraja Newbie

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    I haven't read the entire thread so I am not sure if someone else has already posted a similar note but...

    I had decided to mod my XPS while I was waiting for a replacement HD to arrive from Dell (free of charge, 2 days to wait: very good!) as I was occasionally experiencing some systems crashes.

    While waiting for the new HD I installed Ubuntu on an external USB HD and backed up all my data (the old HD had a problem anyways, as reported by the Dell Diagnostic DVD).

    The day after, after having booted from the USB and worked for some hours I experienced another crash... :eek:

    After some researched I found this great thread and then decided to mod my system.

    However, before shopping around for the copper, I decided to install the latest nvidia drivers (177.80) and, as suggested by a friend, the latest Adobe Flash plugin for Firefox (10.0 r12).

    I worked all day long today and have had no problem at all :D

    For your info I installed a tool (members.dslextreme.com/users/billw/gkrellm/gkrellm.html) letting me to keep the GPU temperature and get some sounds played when the temps reaches warning levels.

    I will keep you updated if the problem is definitively gone or if I need to shop for some copper.

    BTW can anyone please Iet me know what temperature (CPU and GPU) can be considered WARNING and what should NEVER be over exceeded?

    thank you so much for this wonderful thread, without this I was most probably moving to a different notebook (and forget dell forever).
     
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    elg3ne Notebook Enthusiast

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    After for waiting long 200hrs to cure my copper mod here are the results:

    OS: Vista 32bit SP1
    Ambient of test: 25C

    Before: Idle (not using for 10mins)
    CPU0=51
    CPU1=55
    GPU=62

    Before: stress test with orthos
    CPU0=79
    CPU1=79
    GPU=77

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    After: Idle (not using for 10mins)
    CPU0=42
    CPU1=45
    GPU=54

    After: stress test with orthos
    CPU0=72
    CPU1=74
    GPU=70

    Observation:
    On playing the idle temp, for the first 10mins GPU is idling at 54-59 but after 15mins GPU is shooting up to 60-64 is this normal? No programs running on vista and Im just watching the temps.

    Is this results are ok? I'm still thingking to redo the mod because I am not satisfied :-(.

    Thanks
     
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    elg3ne.. I would say your results are pretty good for the GPU. Very nice that your CPU dropped that much. My CPU temps went down only slightly after doing the mod.
     
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    Halkar Notebook Enthusiast

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    elg3ne, what did you use to measure the temps?

    I used an aluminium heatsink one of my old lattitude laptops fit perfectly between the gpu and heatsink. I did this after my mobo replacement as I do beleive i would have problem again in few months. I am out of waranty so I will dump and buy another laptop if it dies again. I measure my temps with hwmonitor tool and my normal usage (browsing, few docs etc) between 45-55c. I am not sure how good is this tool as everest reports about 10c more. This is on Vista64. I also have XP32 on the laptop which runs hotter (again monitoring with hw tool). Also also have Windows 2008 64 (I know I know :D )which runs hotter again about 10c more.

    Does anyone know any good tool to monitor the temps?
     
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