Dell XPS 9580 with Ice Lake processor?

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  1. JKnows

    JKnows Notebook Consultant

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    Well, we already know in June will arrive the new Dell XPS 9580 with Nvidia Geforce 1650 GPU, which is pretty awesome. However there was no information on the CPU part, we simply just expect the actual Intel I5-9300H and I7-9750H. But what if it is coming with the brand new Intel Ice Lake, which based on the brand new 10nm Sunny Cove architecture?
    According to Intel's newsroom, "Intel will begin shipping the brand new 10nm Ice Lake mobile processors in volume from June. The new Ice Lake parts will ship in notebooks in time for the holiday season this year".

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    AFAIK (though that's not much), Ice Lake's summer plans will volume launch U-series processors (15W). Indeed, the die Intel showed and annotated yesterday was of a 15W U series chip (at least implied to be, since it didn't have PCIe blocks, in favor of the OPI PHY they use [variant of PCIe, so far as I am aware]).
     
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    As far as I have seen so far, the only Ice Lake 10nm CPU's are ULV Quad Core CPU's, nothing like a 6c/12t or 8c/16t model. Who wants a 4c CPU in this era of higher core count consumer CPU's?

    These are higher yield versions of last years low production 10nm ULV CPU's that had disabled iGPU's, maybe this year the iGPU's will work?

    Does anyone see a desktop 10nm part on the charts? I didn't see any such listing. Also the Xeon 10nm CPU's are low core count as well.

    Based on the 10nm/7nm overlap with no 10nm desktop parts showing, and no 7nm desktop part showing, I still don't know what to think as far as Intel finally delivering any kind of useful 10nm / 7nm desktop / H laptop CPU's.

    To me it looks like a nicely filled out chart with 10nm / 7nm BS sprinkled in between the real 14nm production runs, in the same way as the last 3-4 years of missed deliveries for 10nm production promises.

    The only difference is that now Intel has added 7nm to their wish list.
     
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    Me! But not the 15W, instead the 35W variant. I think 6 and 8 Cores CPU for this thin machine nonsense. Fast fewer cores rather, per core performance is the king!
     
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    Thermals stretch both ways, higher frequency heats things up in that direction, and going wider with more cores adds to the thermal load as well. It's a tuning to the application mix that needs to be taken into account. With Windows 10 running 200 background processes in a standard install, you need more than 4 cores to spin that mix of load, as well as 1,2, or more cores that will spin up higher in frequency for single / dual core loads.

    Also, 10nm wasn't performing up to the latest 14nm in IPC, there was a performance wash going from 14nm to 10nm with 14nm advanced improvements - what is shipping now - beating the current state of 10nm.

    So even if you get the same or higher frequency operation out of the 10nm 4 core CPU, it will fall behind the 14nm++++ sku equivalent.

    It will be interesting to see how performance competitive the 10nm ULV CPU's actually turn out to be against 4c/8t 14nm ULV Intel and AMD U series 6c/12t or 8c/16t Zen+ and then Zen 2 competition.
     
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    200 background processes? Damn, i no wonder anymore why Macbooks so much better in battery time than Windows laptops.
     
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