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Dell Latitude X1 and IBM ThinkPad X41 Comparison (pics)

Discussion in 'Notebook News and Reviews' started by Andrew Baxter, May 9, 2005.

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  1. Packrat

    Packrat Notebook Consultant

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    what about memory and harddrive upgrades for the X1?

    What is the deal with the memory. Are there 2 slots accessable or only one, or can you even get to them withour cracking open the case?

    Same for the harddrive?
     
  2. bughunter

    bughunter Newbie

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    Since some days I'm also a lucky owner of a X1, so I can answer some questions.
    There is one memory module slot, 256MB are soldered onboard. That's why the max is 1.28GB. What is a big plus of the X1 is the built-in Bluetooth module, whcih supports BT 2.0 with EDR. At the moment it's simply not possible to buy a USB stick with that features (will be may be better in some weeks).
    Is BT also available for the X41?
    And another point: the X41 looks heavier, and according to IBM's web site the weight is 3.3lbs (may be a different battery?)
    The passive cooling seems to work - during heavy compile sessions the CPU reaches a temperature of 70 to 72C (read via ACPI from System - I have Gentoo Linux installed). Intel allows 100C. But anyway this is not a normal usage (and my dual Opteron is helping via distcc).
    Another thing to mention: unlike some other notebooks the CF slot is not a USB connected card reader, it's a real PCMCIA slot in mini format, connected via a card bridge. If there is a need for PC cards in rare cases then a usage of a adapter is possible, at least for 3.3V cards. Ok, its not a nice mecahnical solution, but possible.
    So far I really like this little device.
     
  3. Morbo

    Morbo Newbie

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    Hey bughunter,

    thanks for the additional information. Good to know this thing won't burn a hole in my desk during a stage 1 gentoo install :)

    I'm curious though: Does ACPI suspend work for you under gentoo or do you have to use software suspend?
     
  4. bughunter

    bughunter Newbie

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    Sorry, this is my first notebook and I've not yet tried suspend. I spend some time to get distcc working, because my 64bit Gentoo box have to compile valid 32bit binaries for the X1. Now this is working.
    According to http://freshrpms.net/docs/x1/ swsusp2 is working.
     
  5. Morbo

    Morbo Newbie

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    Ah, thanks anyway. I just noticed that EmperorLinux sells the X1 with Linux preinstalled and advertises it with a working acpi hibernation, so it *should* work somehow.
     
  6. dfi

    dfi Newbie

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    I just got my dell x1 a couple of days ago. A couple of comments:

    The screen is really quite good. I also have a sony vaio tr1a with the xbrite screen and even though the dell has a matte finish, its just as bright as the sony. The viewing angle of the sony is better though. So its not quite as good as the sony, but its still very nice.

    When I run super pi to 2million, I got 2 min 42 secs. Decent..

    The dell uses the intel 915 graphics chip, just like the x41 so they are equivalent in that respect.

    I debated between the ibm and the dell, but in the end the wide screen and higher resolution won me over.

    Overall I really like this notebook.

    Dave
     
  7. Orbitz

    Orbitz Newbie

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    How does the X1 seem durability wise? One thing I like about the Thinkpad series is the outside is very durable..it stands up great to normal wear and tear type activies. I don't have any experience with the X1 to get a feel for how easy it will scratch etc.

    Spec wise the X1 is very tempting...the price Dell gave me for it is actually about the same as the X41 (taking into account a MC / Visa discout from IBM).

    I am curious to see the full review...especially the speed comparison between the 1.1ghz in the X1 and the 1.5 in the X41.
     
  8. Orbitz

    Orbitz Newbie

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    Btw...Bluetooth is available on the X41 although it only comes installed on a few of the models. However, all X4x series ship with the anntenna installed in the machine allready (you can install an antenna yourself, however, it requires disassembly of almost the entire machine to run the wire) so it is quite easy to pop the keyboard off and exchange the modem card..the cost for the part is only about $60 from IBM. I think the BT on the X41 is version 1.1 (or 1.2?)
     
  9. elmalloc

    elmalloc Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'm confused as hell. IBM X41? IBM T43 (different league, but felt one of these at work and it didn't feel anywhere near 5 lbs as listed - and only 1" thick)? Dell X1? Toshiba R200?

    At some show, they took an ibm laptop by the screen, and was waving the keyboard up and down, enough said.

    Still waiting on notebookreview's full X41 review....

    -ELmO

    [​IMG]
     
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  10. chaos

    chaos Newbie

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    Does the heat bother anyone? Sounds like the laptop's internal components are ok with it, but as a human, the heat seems to get close to my threshold of comfort, and I don't know if some of my "cheap" table furniture laminates can withstand it...I know, prop it up with something. But if I am using my lap as a table (hence laptop), the heat can be very uncomfortable, especially on a hot short pants day!
     
  11. synaptech

    synaptech Newbie

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    I have just ordered the Dell X1, but I can't stop thinking about the IBM X40. I have never liked the touch pad interface, but thought it would be easy enough to get comfortable with it. Any comment on the ease of use of the touch-pad?

    I know you have reviewed/contrasted the X41 vs X1, but I assume the keyboards are the same on the IBM models. Can you please comment on each of the keyboards?

    The fanless system and ULV appeal to me, but I have read the heat generated is significant from the X1. Does the fan in the X40/41 bother anyone?

     
  12. synaptech

    synaptech Newbie

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    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by synaptech
    [br]I have just ordered the Dell X1, but I can't stop thinking about the IBM X40. I have never liked the touch pad interface, but thought it would be easy enough to get comfortable with it. Any comment on the ease of use of the touch-pad?

    I know you have reviewed/contrasted the X41 vs X1, but I assume the keyboards are the same on the IBM models. Can you please comment on each of the keyboards?

    The fanless system and ULV appeal to me, but I have read the heat generated is significant from the X1. Does the fan in the X40/41 bother anyone?


    <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

    Most questions were answered here: http://www.notebookreview.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=17446

    Thanks
     
  13. queshy

    queshy Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    Excellent compare/contrast review!

    Dell Inspiron 700m
    Pentium M, 1.8 Ghz
    1024 mb ram
    80 gb HD
    Dell Axim x50v
    iPod 3G 20 GB
     
  14. g8trb8

    g8trb8 Newbie

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    as posted on another thread, I have 2 of these machines left as of today, I sold the others on ebay.

    I bought many of these for my office, I have the extras listed here

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6779286371&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1
     
  15. el_lasso

    el_lasso Notebook Enthusiast

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    Great comparaison

    Thanks

    I ordered a IBM X40 from a friend's store, I have a better price than with the dell so I decided to go for the IBM because of keyboard and 1.5 ghz processor even though I wanted the DELL for FW and Widescreen...

    Oh well I'll see when I'll get it.

    Pat
     
  16. ivar

    ivar Notebook Deity

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    Who knows, if it is possible in principle to replace ULV processor in X1 with a normal PM like 1.6GHz
    and then undervolt and underclock the latter for the regular use but still having a possibility to use 1.6GH computing power temporarily for some short processor demanding tasks, when it is needed (so that it will not overheat)?
     
  17. Brian

    Brian Working at 486 Speed NBR Reviewer

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    No ivar, that would be a disaster. Even if you could do it, which you can't, the lack of fan would be bad news for your machine.
     
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