Dell Inspiron 5577 Questions

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  1. wellhung

    wellhung Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi,

    Configuration I got:

    Intel i5 7300HQ
    GeForce 1050 GTX 4GB GDDR5
    1 TB 2.5" 7mm 5400 HDD (ST1000LM035)
    1 x 8 GB DDR4 2400 SODIMM (Hynix)
    15" Matte TN 1920x1080 (Based on a Dell Rep on Amazon, better quality than 7000 series)
    Back-lit Keyboard (two levels, lights up gradually after sensing hand pressures)
    Windows 10 Home

    Observations (3 weeks in):

    1. Playing games like Titanfall 2 the fan doesn't go off all the time, rarely even. But then when I play a game that looks less...demanding, Overwatch, the fan goes off non stop (Edit: In different speeds, some louder than others). And at full throttle it's loud IMO.

    2. The hdd makes audible sounds. I'm used to consistent spinning sound that mechanical hdd tend to have, but this one makes louder sounds intermittently as it spins. Putting in a different hdd (sshd) removes the noise.

    3. There were two times when the laptop just Restarted by itself, basically kicking me off of anything I was doing.

    There wasn't any notifications or anything, just restarts. I wasn't playing a game at those times. I don't think this was Windows update because usually it tells me after the restart of what happened. Anyone else has this problem. On the Dell page reviews, one person mentions this but no specifics.

    4. Chrome lags a lot when HW acceleration is enabled. Full system lags, more than 2 seconds and they come often no matter if you're watching YouTube or writing forum posts. Turn it off in Settings (scroll to the bottom).

    Benchmarks:

    3DMark11

    3dmark score: 7268
    Graphics score: 7885
    Physics score: 5855
    Combined score: 5940

    Unigine (Superposition): 2979

    UserBenchmarks: Game 34%, Desk 51%, Work 33%
    CPU: Intel Core i5-7300HQ - 75.3%
    GPU: Nvidia GTX 1050 (Mobile) - 31.7%
    HDD: Seagate Laptop SSHD 2.5" 1TB - 53.9%
    RAM: Unknown HMA81GS6AFR8N-UH 1x8GB - 44.1%
    MBD: Dell Inspiron 5577
     
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  2. 3g6

    3g6 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi, Not yet ordered my, but it should be identical with Inspiron 7559, which has good reputation by its well designed cooling. Maybe you need to wait for new bios, which will change the fans behavior.
    Yes this can use pcie SSD and if heatsink needed (but i doubt), I will integrate an Aluminum alloy plate.

    Did you run any test? like 3Dmark11 or Userbenchmark? I would be curious how is I5-7300HQ and 1050 performing together.
     
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  3. wellhung

    wellhung Notebook Enthusiast

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    I kind got used the fan now, it's fine. It's super quiet when the fan is not running. Titanfall 2 MP is quiet too, not sure why Overwatch is taxing the system. All the Settings are on Recommended for all games.

    I used https://benchmark.unigine.com/superposition?lang=en and got around high 2.9k. I'll look at specifics later.

    Are those benchmarks still current for newer CPUs and GPUs?

    As for the random restart, I can't duplicate it. I used Prime95 for hours and nothing.
     
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  4. Soulsaber

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    For the random restarts, it sounds like it could be bad ram. Run something like memtest and see what you get.
     
  5. JKnows

    JKnows Notebook Consultant

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    Hello, so it will be the Inspiron 5577 topic :). Going to be very popular laptop!

    About your benchmark not really, still 3Dmark 11 the most accurate benchmark out there with the best comparable score.

    Additionally do undervolting with Throttlestop, your CPU will suck around 10W less power at Load. Means fan will have to work on lower RPM.


    EDIT
    I bring my 3rd page post ahead:

    So the laptop:
    Optically it is exactly same as the older model 7559, expect the red keyboard. I do not like it, i will flip-in the light blue keyboard from the 7559. Fan noise seems louder, but right now I'm doing undervolting with Throttlestop and I think it will lower the fans speed. Windows 7 Prof X64 is installed, I have found drivers for everything. Memory switched to 2x8GB 2400MHZ CL14 Kingstone. 250GB Msata SSD also inserted. I'll update soon with a 3DMark 11 score!

    Update 1:
    The first test run, seems quite pretty. The 1050M is significantly stronger than the predecessor 960M, while the i5-7300HQ is 2000 points weaker than the I7-6700HQ. I guess this difference only because the lack of Hyper Threading in i5, but in games it will be similarly fast.
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    Update 2:
    Throttlestop do wonders for I5-7300HQ too. I undervolted the CPU core, Cache, IGP and System agent by 100mw. The system is now consuming significantly less power, the fans working on lower speeds or not at all at idle. Note I could apply also -170mw for cpu core and cache and was stable running Prime 95 at full CPU speed, but at lower frequency the computer crashed. So i figured the -100mw will be the stable for all time.
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    Update 3:
    Overclocking Nvidia Geforce 1050M. So i checked NvidiaInspector and I realized there is no overclocking barrier. I could increase GPU frequency by 200MHz and the Memory by 250MHz. GPU performance score increased by 800 points. I'll check later what does it means in games.
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    Update 4:
    Memory card reader is significantly slower than in Inspiron 7559? I remember CrystalDiskMark measured me 90MB/sec with the same SD card, now only 26MB/sec. It is bad, looking forward to exchange this internal device too.
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    Update 4.1:
    It is not possible to change the SD card reader between the two models, because they are integrated to the motherboards.

    Update 5:
    I changed the keyboards between the two models. The light blue from the 7559 model more stylish and not irritating.
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    Update 6:
    GTA V running terrible. The benchmark measure 50FPS, which about 16 more FPS than with 960M, however that 50FPS feels like 5-10FPS. The Nvidia 960M with 34FPS was absolutely smooth.

    Update 6.1:
    For GTA V in the Nvidia's control panel I had to choose consistent performance and the game now is smooth. Additionally I disabled CPU turbo in Throttlestop, turned on Vsync at half in the game's menu and the game is now butterfly smooth, the laptop stays quiet.

    Update 6.2:
    Because the CPU is plenty powerful for the Geforce 1050 mobile, it is good idea to disable the CPU Turbo for every game. Less heat created = more enjoyment. I'm playing now GTA IV, so smooth everything turned to maximum...

    Update 7:
    I switched my Samsung 850 EVO 250GB m.2 SSD to Samsung 960 EVO 250GB Pcie SSD. In everyday use i don't really notice speed difference between the two SSD, but the benchmarks does!
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  6. wellhung

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    Not sure how to make out the score but here it is, using the only free option in 3dmarks11 at 1280x720...:

    3dmark score: 7268
    graphics score: 7885
    physics score: 5855
    combined score: 5940

    There was a new BIOS update today, one of the changes is making the system more stable...

    I used memtest until it's finished, around 2h, no errors. Hopefully the BIOS update helps.
     
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  7. JKnows

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    Maybe it just needed the new bios. Nice graphics score, well above my overclocked 960M.
     
  8. wellhung

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    Restarted once while I was using MS Word, didn't restart when I was playing Witcher3 for hours...

    Might be the graphic card driver. My older Dell, the E6430 (oldd), had problems with Intel + Nvidia newest drivers on Win10. Whenever I fullscreen a video it crashes, but fullscreen games are fine. At least thats an actual crash and doesn't restart like everything is normal, like when I press the restart button.

    Opened a Dell forum post:
    Something like this:

    Hi,

    So I just got this laptop few days ago.

    The problem: It restarts randomly, no blue screen, no error messages. It just go to the Restarting process, including the screen where it says "Restarting".

    Three times now, once a day it seems but it is not some scheduled task I checked, it is not Windows Update because WU asks you beforehand.and tells you after reboot that the system has been restarted, I do not think it's the temperature because I have a monitoring software that says it's cool and a cooling pad as well.

    What I did: (Note: I already turned off Automatic restart in System before those restarts happened).:

    Checked Event Viewer nothing special, checked Reliability History, nothing special.

    Did stress test using Dell Assistant tools, memtest86, Prime95, Unengine Benchmark.I can't replicate it.

    Restored the PC, Re-Imaged the PC using the provided Dell Tool and Image for this laptop.

    Any help?

    Is there a program that closely monitors Windows 10 and actually tells you what's causing the reboot? It seems Windows 10 in consciously doing this since it's actually Restarting the Laptop normally so it should have appended the reason why it's Restarting, it's not a power failure where it just shuts down abruptly.

    Thanks!
     
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  9. JKnows

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    Crap Windows... For me one more reason to the many to go again with Windows 7. Cannot wait to receive my new 5577...
     
  10. Tax

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    Nvidia newest 382.05 GPU driver, look how many known issues exist with Windows 7-->

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    And how many with Windows 10 :D -->
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    And these only Nvidia related errors, a laptop has many more components. So your restarts can have 100 reasons at least.
     
    Last edited: May 7, 2017
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