CPU Bottleneck & CPU Cooling Dilemma

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  1. Papusan

    Papusan JOKEBOOK's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on FILTHY

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    I have earlier posted a nice picture graph with several games done by 6700hq/1070 compared to 6700K/1070. The owners of said notebook setups had both machines and tested the games equal. The weaker BGA setup couldn’t compete. Sorry I can’t find it now. But he was crystal clear that the weaker 6700Hq he had was the problem. And he got rid of it.
     
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  2. macmyc

    macmyc Notebook Evangelist

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    Has* the bug hasn't been fixed and it's game engine related.
    On a 6700HQ it pushes all the cores at 100% and yes i know what i'm talking about because i have the game and i get over 120 fps still with some T-AA adjustements and other effects.
    The only way for R6 not to be CPU intensive is to limit fps to 60. Also, destruction in r6 is CPU intensive and it plays a big role in this game but your knowledge is superior, so you should know that already.

    We are not uninformed, it's you being stuck in your own concept of world where a 6700HQ is not CPU limited in multiplayer titles that require a good CPU to push the framerate further without reaching a bottleneck.
     
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  3. rinneh

    rinneh Notebook Prophet

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    Ofcourse the BGA system would fall short against a 6700K. But that is pure clockspeed based. But that is different from stating that the 6700HQ is flat out bottlenecking in 2 to 4 years old games by now from an era where quad cores and the 6700HQ where apart from the HK laptop CPU's top of the line.


    I have a solid 400 hours in R6 Siege on an AW15 R3. Never, but really never did the game spike up to 100% cpu usage. In fact it stresses the CPU so little that my overall system temps are lower.

    Mind you, I never play games on low settings to maximize the framerate (basically you always bottleneck in such a case, simply because you do not stress any decent GPU out there thus bein glimited by CPU. I have all settings on high, FXAA anti aliasing and the 4K texture pack. around 100fps on 1440P using an external monitor. R6 Siege is by now a 4 year old game almost? I that time 6core CPU's where still a pipe dream for non HEDT CPU platforms. It would be unheard of the consider for a game in that era to be that demanding and any potato PC can run it.

    The bug isnt present on all systems you mean? Because I havent seen it in recent versions. THe only bug that I encounter is huge framedrops when chrome is open on the background.
     
  4. rinneh

    rinneh Notebook Prophet

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    (double post by accident)
     
  5. macmyc

    macmyc Notebook Evangelist

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    Just tested both with FXAA and my T-AA settings. You're the only one without this CPU usage when above 60 fps in the whole Siege community. Congrats.

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    This is when limited to 60 fps and below. Same settings.
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    Also, i don't have all settings on low, i have them set so that i can reduce the load on cpu to avoid this issue as much i can.
     
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  6. TheReciever

    TheReciever D! For Dragon!

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    Yeah unlock the frame rate R6: Siege has always been hard on CPU's maybe not as much on the newer stuff 6+ cores but on the quad cores was always a good mention for stability.

    I have a good 1300 hours in Siege. Sadly.

    I had the settings low initially because the 780m struggled to maintain 120FPS but with the 1070 I have the settings cranked max I think (been a while since I looked) and still pushes my 4930mx quite a bit. Though I have been running 3.6Ghz until I am finally not lazy and uninstall my 1070 to access the bios again.

    For reference I get around 130-160 FPS in siege iirc
     
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  7. rinneh

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    Will record my finding when I am back home and run the game on a 4core CPU. Only have a six core laptop with me currently. I am not running the gam elimited by the way. Trying to stay at 100fps at all times. I hate how the game feels at 60fps.
     
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    I doubt you'll have different results, anyways i just realized you and ronferri have different nicknames so all this time i was thinking it was the OP i was speaking to. If you guys had an avatar i would've probably realized that sooner kek :eek:
     
  9. Kevin

    Kevin Egregious

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    All of this back and forth over a trash CPU like the 6700HQ.

    Just run the Civilization VI benchmarks and all you need to know about its speed will be laid bare.
     
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  10. TheQuentincc

    TheQuentincc Notebook Consultant

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    Hi, I think that you should consider overclock and undervolt the cpu, you can overclock the 6700HQ by 200MHz while undervolting it (which end up at 3.3GHz on all core), also for thermal paste recommendation I advise you to choose high performance thermal paste, I had issue with my 3920XM and "cheap" Artic MX4 while I was doing ok (-15°c in load) with some noctua NT-H1, also keep in mind that some very high performance thermal paste like kingpin KPX or Grizzly kryonaut or "LN2 grade" thermal paste that represent the top of the line in term of thermal paste performance doesn't end up well in time, like I saw on some thread +10°c to +20°c in less than 6 month, I think that noctua NT-H2 is a safe bet or if you want to take the risk you can go with liquid metal thermal paste.

    For reference I can tell you that an I7 skylake cpu running at 3.6GHz on all core (my 6820HQ overclocked of 400MHz + 2133MHz DDR4) is somewhere equal to an I7 3770k @4.4~4.5GHz in cpu benchmark, of course this 6770HQ might not be a great cpu for running game over 60fps in latest game.
     
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