Coollaboratory liquid ultra safe for GTX 980M for clevos?

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  1. jean albert

    jean albert Notebook Enthusiast

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    I have :

    Clevo P375SM
    i7 4900MQ
    GTX 980M SLI

    Im using MX4, already re-pasted and "re-thermalpaded" (HAHA dont know how to write this correctly) everything following all kinds of tutorials online with the right thermal pads and milimeters and everything with super caution super slow!! But I'm still getting bad temps, specially on GTA 5 REDUX MAXOUT, the results are:

    GTX 980M GPU1 (Full load on GTA 5 REDUX) MAX TEMP : 77° (BAD but acceptable)
    GTX 980M GPU2 (Full load on GTA 5 REDUX) MAX TEMP : 88° Terrible, it starts to throttle because of this
    CPU i7 4900MQ (Full load on GTA 5 REDUX) MAX TEMP : 94° Terrible!

    Not only on gta 5 redux im getting poor results, im also getting bad results on some other demading games as well.

    Note: I'm using the latest bios from eurocom which is the one prema made for eurocom (this P375SM is actually an EUROCOM X7E), and I'm also playing with fn+1 full power on the fans activated, and still getting bad temps, everything runing on stock clock, no overclock at all, the only thing i didnt check yet is the vbios from the cards, I bought the cards from Mr woodzstack from ebay canada, i dont know if he puts some kind of performance vbios on the cards before shipping them, I'm using the lastest driver from nvidia.

    My question is, can I apply Coollaboratory liquid ultra on the gtx 980m also on the cpu i7 4900mq? I saw it online that it's only unsafe to do it if the heatsink is made of aluminium, I have no Idea if the p375sm heatsink contact part is made of aluminium or copper, although i presume it's copper, I'm just not sure! And I'm also scared that it may damage the gpu or the processor since I'm not sure of what component It's made (obviouslly Coollaboratory wouldn't release a product that damages GPU or CPU, but since I'm a noob, who knows!! So that's why i need some feedback here!! That will give me some extra guts to try this liquid metal thermal compound!). And I saw people relating Drops of 10c° after applying Coollaboratory liquid ultra on some other stuff, like desktops parts and processors (couldnt find anything related to laptops, specially GTX 980M), pretty sure that if some youtuber decides to make an video of Coollaboratory being applied on the GTX 980M (mobile cards in general) and in a mobile processor he would suceed and get lots of attention, simply because there isnt any video of it at this present time.

    Have anyone done this or anyother procedure to reduce the temperature for clevos in particular?

    I notice that it's a real problem with P370 to P377 GPU 2 to overheat on some other forums, but couldnt find anyone realating the solution, I already bought a new heatsink from germany (apparently there's two models of heatsink for these models for the GPU2 and CPU), apearently I have the bad one that overheats, but since im from brazil its going to take 3 months for the new heatsink to get here.

    Any thoughts or solutions? I'd really appreciate if someone can give some ideas! Thanks!
     
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    77 is great, and 88 is within reason (and not at the point where you should be seeing any throttling - to quote Bane: "That comes later.")

    94 is steep, though, and right around the point where you might see some throttling. You can apply any compound you want, really, but be very cautious with the electrically conductive compounds (e.g. Coollaboratory).

    Have you looked at the spread of your current paste? Maybe there's insufficient coverage on the die, or not enough contact with the heatsink.
     
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    Unfortunately GPU2 is throttling, I'm checking the clocks and frequency throttling with afterburn monitoring, GPU2 handles fine until it gets 88°, then it starts to reduce the clock to hold on 88°, then after playing 30 minutes, the GPU 2 clock goes down to 135 MHZ to hold the temperature!!! At this point GPU1 is at 50°, GPU 2 forces GPU1 to reduce its clock as well, Fps goes to 10, terrible! Since I'm scared of damaging GPU2, I turned off SLI and getting better performance after 30 minutes of gaming with just the GPU1 ON, after some research, I concluded that the heatsink that I have here is GARBAGE, this heatsink belongs to P370SM (it's written on it), it's pure garbage, there's not enough copper to handle the GTX 980M, the copper on it is not conected to itself, it's all loose,, the P377 heatsink has a lot more copper and aluminium on its sides, since I couldnt find anyone relating tests with liquid compound for the GTX 980M and for the 4900MQ I'm going to try it myself to see what happens, I already double checked, this clevo heatsink and the GPU/CPU die that I have, and they are not made of aluminium, so I'm fine as long as I don't drop anything on eletrical parts I won't damage anything, I'm willing to try Coollaboratory because it's by far the best results that I found on benchmarks online, I found some other brands as well that people said it's better than Coollaboratory, such as GELid Extreme, Grizzly Kyronaut and IC Diamond 7 (i saw this on a topic here by iunlock), but I can't find these compounds here in Brazil, Coollaboratory is the only one considered high performance that I can find here, and Mr Woodzstack said to me that the MX4 that I'm using is garbage, so... I have to try something or sell my second GPU!!

    About the "pasting", I'lready quadruple checked, I Tried the X, the line, the DOT, all same results!!!

    So my conclusion is : P370SM GPU 2 HEATSINK = GARBAGE, CPU heatsink is not the greatest either, about the cpu I think I can reduce to 90° with Coollaboratory, I only get 94 °temps on the CPU with full Load, on GTA 5 REDUX all max out, everything else like DOOM I get 70° for the cpu as MAX TEMPS, GTA 5 Redux is by far the most heavy thing I could find until now to test the temperatures, as for the GPU 2 it gets bad temps in any game I try.
     
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    So does the 7xxM series.

    The only overheating I'm seeing per your post is the CPU, and if that throttles, you might see it bottleneck your 980M consequently (x1 or in SLI). You have several variables to consider, I just don't think your GPUs are suffering thermal throttling from the temps you've reported here.

    Coollaboratory should get you better temps than Gelid GC Extreme and IC Diamond. Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut will be comparable to Coollaboratory, if not better.
     
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    Interesting, well, that's the thing, with SLI turned off I can play for hours, the fans doesnt even bother me that much with loud noise, even if the cpu gets a little high temp, it doesnt reduce the GPU1 clock, it stays at 1126 MHz without throttling at all, and about the CPU, like I said, I'm only getting 94° on GTA5 Redux, everything else stays normal, for Dying Light for instance, the CPU doesnt cross 71° and GPU 1 alone (SLI OFF) doesnt cross 78°, and for DOOM i left it for 2 hours game runing all on max, the cpu was stable on 69-70 ° and GPU 70-71° and it stayed runing at 1126 MHz the intire time, it didnt reduce not even once! It was interesting to know that Dying Light i reched 78° and DOOM only 70°. When I play these two games with SLI ON, GPU 2 reaches 88° and it starts to throttle, clock starts to go down pretty fast, not only that, it throttles GPU1 with it, performance gets worse than SLI OFF. For now I'm runing everthing on Artic MX4, if i go with Coollaboratory, which would be better for my scenario? Coollaboratory ULTRA or Coollaboratory PRO?, As soon as I get the the liquid compound and I install it, I'll post the results here with pictures (before/after)
     
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    GTA V is said to have some issues on the PC port. 94 Celsius is right at that point where the clocks start to dial back, and the 4900MQ tends to run a little hot as it is. :vbfrown:

    Ultra is top tier. If you're going to spend the money, not to mention the time/effort in applying it, go with the Ultra.

    Great! If you're interested, a user recently posted a thermal compound roundup: http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...e-recommendations-update-thermal-pads.796820/
     
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    OK!!

    Thanks for the tips! As soon as I get my hands on the Coollaboratory ULTRA I'll put the results here, also when my new heat sink arrives from germany I'll also put the results for the gpu 2 temps

    Thanks again!
     
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    Gpu 2 should be the cooler of the two so either the re-pad is not quite right or the heatsink has an issue.
     
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    It may be worth looking into getting undervolted vBIOSes. Undervolting can make a huge difference for temperatures.
     
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