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Compaq Presario C700 Upgrades And Facts!

Discussion in 'HP Compaq Presario, G-series and Mini Notebooks' started by drmega0226, Apr 4, 2008.

  1. drmega0226

    drmega0226 Notebook Enthusiast

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    FINALLY!

    AFTER SO MANY PEOPLE LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO GET UPGRADE INFORMATION ABOUT THIS NOTEBOOK. I AM HERE TO HELP. I'VE PLAYED WITH A NUMBER OF THESE, AND UPGRADED A NUMBER OF THEM. I'VE ALSO COMPILED A NUMBER OF FACTS FOR YOU FROM HP, AND TESTING.


    FACTS:

    -THE HP COMPAQ PRESAIO C700 USES THE INTEL GM965 CHIPSET

    -THE PENTIUM DUAL-CORE T2XX IS A MEROM BASED (C2D) CHIP, NOT THE OLDER SLOWER YONAH (CD)

    -YOU CAN UPGRADE THE PROCESSOR IN THIS NOTEBOOK TO ANY SOCKET P, CORE 2 DUO, PENTIUM DUAL-CORE CHIP INCLUDING PENRYN BASED CHIPS. (T8XX, T9XX)

    -THE MEMORY COMPARTMENT HOLDS THE MEMORY/WIRELESS CARD/AND GM965 CONTROLLER. THAT IS NOT THE PROCESSOR YOU SEE THERE WHEN YOU OPEN IT. YOU MUST OPEN THE NOTEBOOK ENTIRELY TO GET TO THE CPU.

    -THIS NOTEBOOK CAN BE UPGRADED TO 2GB MEMORY ONLY! ANY OTHER COMBO WILL CAUSE WINDOWS NOT TO BOOT. HOWEVER, SOME HAVE GOTTEN 3GB BY PUTTING THE 2GB MODULE IN THE INNNER MEMORY BAY. THIS IS THE ONLY CONFIG THAT WORKED. CANNOT CONFIRM THIS THOUGH.

    -THIS NOTEBOOK DOES NOT HAVE THE SO-CALLED "MIDDLE BUTTON" ON THE MOUSE PAD.

    -THE INTEL GMA X3100 GRAPHICS ARE INTEGRATED, AND CANNOT BE UPGRADED.

    -THERE ARE XP DRIVERS, HOWEVER, THIS IS AN UPGRADE THREAD SO LET'S MOVE ON.

    -THE PENTIUM DUAL-CORE T2XX SERIES IS ARE 64-BIT CHIPS.

    -YOU CAN USE A HP 12-CELL LI-ION BATTERY WITH THIS NOTEBOOK, HOWEVER YOU CANNOT CONFIG THIS NOTEBOOK WITH A 12-CELL BATTERY, YOU MUST BUY SEPERATELY, I'VE SEEN SOME ON EBAY. IT WILL FIT THIS NOTEBOOK.

    -THE MAINBOARD ACCEPTS 800 MHz FSB. 800/533/667

    -THE OEM PRODUCT KEY WILL WORK TO ACTIVATE WINDOWS VISTA 64-BIT. I'VE USED IT. IF YOU HAVE PROBLEMS DOING THIS EMAIL ME AND I'LL GUIDE YOU THROUGH IT.

    I HOPE THIS WAS HELPFUL IN ANSWERING SOMW QUESTION ABOUT UPGRADING THE COMPAQ PRESARIO C700 SERIES NOTEBOOK. IT'S A SLEEK, ELEGANT NOTEBOOK, THAT CAN BECOME A POWERHOUSE AFTER SOME UPGRADES. WELL ENOUGH FOR NOW HAPPY UPGRADING.
     
  2. Kdawgca

    Kdawgca rotaredoM repudrepuS RBN Super Moderator

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    Running/installing OSX on a non-apple label computer like your C700 is a violation of Apple's OSX's EULA(end user license agreement) and thus cannot be discussed on NBR.

    Do not bring up that topic again...

    Also, try upgrading the BIOS for the 4GB issue.

    -Kdawgca
    NBR Mod
     
  3. drmega0226

    drmega0226 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Also, try upgrading the BIOS for the 4GB issue.

    -Kdawgca
    NBR Mod[/QUOTE]

    Sorry Buddy, even with BIOS update 4GB will not work, tested and appoved
     
  4. R4000

    R4000 Notebook Virtuoso

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    How did you determine that the mobo uses the GM965 chipset?
     
  5. K-TRON

    K-TRON Hi, I'm Jimmy Diesel ^_^

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    You can use CPU-Z to find out which chipset your motherboard uses.

    I have a 945PM chipset in my dell, and even with the latest bios revision, I can only use 2Gb of memory.
    I run XP, so it doesnt matter to me all that much. 2Gb of memory is way more than one could ever need with XP.

    K-TRON
     
  6. R4000

    R4000 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Can CPU-Z distinguish between a GL960 and the 965 variants?
     
  7. redrazor11

    redrazor11 Formerly waterwizard11

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    I find it strange that 800/533 memory can run, but not 667. Would 667 be downclocked to 533 then?


    Also, is it really nessicarry to type in caps? It drives me crazy :p
     
  8. drmega0226

    drmega0226 Notebook Enthusiast

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    this is only because, it does not accept the socket M 667 chips. currently i know of no socket P 667 chips.[/I]orry about the caps[/I]
     
  9. powerpack

    powerpack Notebook Prophet

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    That has been a problem and it reports GL960 as GM965 as you are thinking.

    That caught my eye also so read twice. Does not mention memory it is talking about FSB. And 667Mhz RAM would work on 800Mhz FSB.
     
  10. R4000

    R4000 Notebook Virtuoso

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    The T5550 is one.............

    That is what I thought. Perhaps GPU-Z can identify, since the GL960's X3100 has a lower clock than the one with GM965............
     
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    drmega0226 Notebook Enthusiast

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    drmega0226 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Resting One Newbie

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    C700 Presarios probably DO NOT use the Intel GM965 Express chipset, despite what CPU-z and GPU-Z reports on your system. The Z programs can't spot them yet.

    It may ultimately depend on your exact Model number (C700 is the line number, is not the model number). Mine is the C717NR. I think they have 713's, 714's, 715's and 716's and maybe more. These are just the model numbers I've seen surfing around today. I suspect that all of the 71# are like this.

    The HP website says nothing ANYWHERE about the specific chipset for these Presarios other than it has the x3100 accelerator. Even when you call/online chat with HP and ask them which chipset you have, they will take a long time to answer and come back with the half hearted answer that you have the GM965. When you ask for verification, they have nothing but vague answers. BUT YOU PROBABLY DO NOT HAVE GM965.

    HERE'S HOW TO TELL FOR SURE:
    Download Everest Ultimate Edition (free trial version is fine) and run it on your system. Then click on motherboard and then chipset. There's about a 95% chance that it will identify the northbridge as Crestline GL960.

    All evidence points to the GL960 officially supporting 2GB of ram, and unofficially 3GB (unofficial because any configuration over 2GB requires 2 ram sticks of differing capacities, so the memory won't be running in dual channel). I haven't found a single instance anywhere where someone got 4GB of RAM to boot into Windows on one of these Presarios.

    Wonderful, isn't it?

    As long as the CPU isn't soldered in, all users have reported success swapping out the T2310 with Chips in the T5XXX line and getting the C2D upgrade to work, but that it requires you to pretty much completely dismantle the darn thing to get to the CPU/heatsink assembly. You still won't have higher ram capacity however.

    On a more positive front, I hear Intel will be releasing DX10 compliant graphic drivers for the x3100 accelerator at the nd of this month, so (as long as the drivers apply to the GL960) we might get the promised Dx10 support that they failed to deliver upon at launch.....

    Because of the suspicious lack of documentation, I can't help but wonder if a simple "altered" BIOS would enable higher RAM freqeuncies and capacity....
     
  16. drmega0226

    drmega0226 Notebook Enthusiast

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    No,

    GM965 accepts 667Mhz Memory, 800 FSB (This is the C700's Config), HP didn't skim here.
    GL960 accept 533Mhz Memory Only! and 533MHz FSB Only!


    The HP Compaq Presario C714NR, C713NR, C710NR, and above. Uses Intel GM965 Chipset. This is for sure.
    The HP Compaq Presario will not use over 2gb ram. No other configs have been confirmed to work.
    The HP Compaq doesn't have a soldered cpu. Yes you have to take off the back panel, but that's all I did to upgrade.
    .

    A great notebook imo. From value to mid-range, in a cpl steps. ;)
     
  17. R4000

    R4000 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Yeah, the C700T looks like a good deal (and HP just threw in free shipping as of this morning). :)
     
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    drmega0226 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Update:

    For those that own this notebook, flash your BIOS to F.31
    This update does the following for you.

    -Increase system graphics memory from 251MB to 384MB, allows hardware acceleration in full screen mode. (downloading latest intel x3100 drivers recommended)
    (not recommended if running 1GB of ram)
    -Allows for 3GB support for Windows Vista 32-bit and 4GB or more for Vista 64
    (you must put 2GB DIMM in inner slot, and 1GB DIMM in outter slot) HP site also confirms this.
    -Allows for penryn support.
    -Also, if you want longer battery life, high-capcity 8 cell and 12 cell batteries from HP fit this notebook, you have to buy seperatly though, hp.com does not allow you to configure this laptop this way.

    hope this helps

    **This fix worked well on C714NR other models may not be compatible.
     
  19. passivex

    passivex Newbie

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    What about upgrading the wireless card?
    I have the C713NR and it comes with a broadcom chip. The card is not minipci (to my dismay) but a mini pci express (pci express version of minipci).
    I'm looking to replace it with an atheros-based wireless card (that supports packet injection :D ) but I am not sure about which card to choose. To make matters worse, I am hearing that certain HP laptop BIOS will refuse to boot without an approved wireless card (there's some sort of blacklist).

    Have any of you upgraded the wireless card on your C700 series laptop? If so, please chime in.
     
  20. drmega0226

    drmega0226 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I haven't switched wireless cards. I'm still using the broadcom. Works fine for me, However, I am pretty sure the Intel cards work just fine, I am not sure of atheros.
     

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