Comment my ITX mini Gaming PC Build.

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    Try to get a 6GB version of the GTX1060, it's worth it.
    Games nowadays are hogging all the memory.
     
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    How come so little Ram? I'd go at least 16GB. I hate seagate hard drives but that is a personal pref. Otherwise, agree with the more RAM on Video Card. All else looks pretty good.
     
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    Too late ordered and being shipped, besides I originally was going to get a GTX 1050 Ti 4GB but the price difference between a GTX 1060 3GB was not that much plus the games I play are mostly console ports.

    Basically this machine is meant to replace a PS4/Pro, this is why form factor, noise and cooling was so important in this build.

    8GB of ram is plenty since the machine is used mostly for games without having many other programs or lots web browser tabs open.

    There's many articles online in 2016/2017 showing what's the impact of having 16GB and 8GB of ram for games that hog memory over such as GTA 5 and Shadow of Mordor, believe it or not having 8GB does not affect the framerate compared to 16GB.

    A Ryzen 1200 was chosen alongside a GTX 1060 3GB becuase there's no bottle neck between CPU/GPU both ways, choosing to go any higher than a GTX 1060 would have bottle neck the CPU and anything higher than a Ryzen 1200 paired with a GTX 1060 does raise the framerates at all in pretty much all games.

    IHMO upgrading either CPU or GPU in this build makes little sense as it's meant to pure gaming box as a replacement for current gen consoles, this is why a Ryzen 1200 was chosen alongside a GTX 1060 as going any higher on either the CPU/GPU pretty useless unless both are done upgraded in conjunction but that's out of my budget.

    All in all this was meant to be a budget gaming build so on components where I can save money without affecting the framerate and reliability of the machine I did so such as: ram size, VRAM size and hard drive (still needed at least SSHD).

    My ideal mid tier gaming build would have cost around $450 more with a Ryzen 1600, 16GB ram, GTX 1060 6GB, 256GB SSD, bigger power supply and I might have had to sacrifice the form factor of the case for a slight bigger (longer/taller) in order to fit the 6GB video card.

    Edit:

    Upon further review on my build the only thing I can really change the system ram from 8GB to 16GB because in the rare case a game needs more VRAM than the video card has it will fall back to system ram which is slower but not like going from system ram to hard drive.

    These type of games are rare pretty rare and even less so considering the type of games I play which are pretty much all console ports on Steam that have full Xbox controller support, in the case more VRAM and/or system RAM is needed for these games on a system with 16GB system ram and 3GB VRAM impact on framerate will be minimal to nonexistent however loading times, texture loading times and multitasking between desktop programs will be slower.

    Still I think the most worthwhile investment is going from 8Gb to 16GB of ram on my build but it's not needed immediately and can be upgraded fairly easily in the future if and when needed.
     
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    I would definitely get the 8GB upgrade, and that build will last you a good lifetime if you don't go higher than 1080p. 1440p will however just be at the limit tho.
     
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    It's a 27" LG 1080P monitor, like I said it's meant to be immersive experience as a console replacement hence why I did not go with 6GB VRAM and 16GB system ram.

    If it were to be a 27" 1440p monitor than I would not be able to connect my Nintendo Switch to it without significant blur from displaying in a non native resolution.

    Besides I would have gotten a GTX 1070 if I had went the 1440p monitor route only for PC gaming but then I'd have to get 16GB ram, a higher end Ryzen 5 CPU and more powerful power supply in the which the total cost would be over 50% more than cost for my current build.
     
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    I took your advice with reputation given, RMA process for returning the 8GB kit started with Newegg.ca.

    Ordering the 16GB kit this week alongside a change in power supply from a Corsair SFX 450W to a Seasonic Focus Plus 550W for the same price.
     
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    Ordered the G.Skill 16GB memory kit, the Seasonic S12II 520W (Corsair SFX 450W was on back order and Seasonic albeit older is highly rated) and updated my PartPicker parts list above to reflect the changes and pricing of my now completely purchased build.

    Many thanks to those who commented to the thread especially to those who talked real world sense into me that made me change my final decision (before building) on memory size for my build to 16GB.

    ;)
     
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    Build is complete added a Crucial BX300 240GB as the primary OS drive (not going with NVMe as they still seem to have overheating and throttling issues), currently doing a stability test with Prime95 for Ryzen 1200 @ 3.8Ghz (7 hours in as I type).

    I'm using a manual 1.200 volts (with LLC on low) for the CPU as anything lower freezes at the 4 hour mark, if all goes well then I'll test it again with the vCORE set to AUTO in combination with a higher LLC setting which would allow the vCORE to drop much lower when the CPU is idle.

    Edit:

    Passed 24.5 hours of Prime95 on the Ryzen 1200 @ 3.8Ghz, I'm happy with that.

    I had to take the G.Skill 16GB kit back as I was not aware the G.Skill kit is not fully compatible with this board (Prime95's blend test would fail within 5 minutes no matter the speed settings), I got the Corsair Vengeance 16GB kit as the replacement since it's listed as fully compatible with Gigabyte's memory compatibility PDF for this particular board.
     
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    Old thread just an update, I got 4Ghz with 1.4v stable with my Ryzen 1200 but I don't want pushing the chip that hard; so I decided to stick with 3.95Ghz with 1.35v for safe peace of mind everyday usage.

    I also got 2100/9500 stable with my GTX 1060 which I'm sticking with since the temps are great after I changed the thermal paste and did a fan mod (swapped of the original fan for a Noctua one).

    The ram cannot be pushed anymore, should have gotten a replacement when I had the chance (lost the lottery) but I'm happy it's 100% stable and compatible with board @ 3000Mhz after the AGESA 1.0.0.6 update all considering the price I paid it.
     
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